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SELF-DEPRECATION is one of seven basic character flaws or “dark” personality traits. We all have the potential for some self-doubt and social anxiety, but in people with a deep sense of personal inadequacy, Self-Deprecation can become a dominant pattern.

To deprecate (or depreciate *) something is to belittle it or downgrade it. That is, to reduce its perceived status, importance, and value.

* deprecate rhymes with ‘fabricate’, while depreciate rhymes with ‘appreciate’. Take your pick.

Self-deprecation (or self-depreciation) therefore means belittling yourself, criticising yourself, or running yourself down—both internally in your own mind and externally in the eyes of others. It is defined as:

  • The disparagement of one’s own abilities; [1]
  • Communication that expresses something negative about its originator; making negative statements regarding one’s own appearance or abilities, such as saying “I’m so fat” or “I’m such an idiot”; [2]
  • Expressing disapproval of or being critical of oneself. [3]

It is an urge, often an automatic and irresistible urge, to present yourself as lower than others, or less than you should be, or even invisible—unworthy of being seen.

As with the opposite chief feature of arrogance, self-deprecation is a way of manipulating others’ perceptions of yourself in order to avoid taking a ‘hit’ to your self-esteem.

In this case, however, the basic strategy is to get in first—to launch a preemptive attack on your own failings before anyone else can do so. While the arrogant person tries to deny their imperfections by feigning perfection, the self-deprecating person believes their own imperfection is absolute: I am simply not as good as other people… And it’s perfectly obvious to everyone else, so there’s no point denying it.

Like all chief features, self-deprecation involves the following components:

  1. Early negative experiences
  2. Misconceptions about the nature of self, life or others
  3. A constant fear and sense of insecurity
  4. A maladaptive strategy to protect the self
  5. A persona to hide all of the above in adulthood

Early Negative Experiences

In the case of self-deprecation, the early negative experiences typically revolve around failing to live up to parents’ high expectations.

Perhaps the parents are perfectionists and expect the child to measure up to an impossible standard. Perhaps the parents are over-achievers and cannot accept having a child who isn’t similarly talented or driven. Either way, the child can never be up to scratch.

Misconceptions

From such experiences of being constantly below standard, the child comes to perceive himself as something fundamentally flawed, basically inadequate.

Again and again, the child in this position learns that “who I am is not good enough.” The love, care and attention that he craves is unavailable, and the reason for this is—apparently—his own deficiency as a person. His constant sense of failure, and of being a constant disappointment to others, give rise to a fundamental sense of shame.

Hence:

Who I am is not good enough. Nothing I can do will ever be good enough.

I should feel ashamed of myself just for being me.

Even before I try, I know I’m going to fail—so there’s no point in even trying.

At least I will always be right about one thing: my inadequacy.

I have nothing of value to offer anyone. I don’t belong here. I am an impostor. 

Fear

Based on the above  misconceptions and early negative experiences, the child becomes gripped by a specific kind of fear. In this case, the fear is of inadequacynever being good enough to please or satisfy others, never being good enough to deserve success or love or happiness.

The child feels like a gatecrasher in life, an uninvited guest, an interloper, and constantly fears being caught and exposed.

His attempts at living a normal life cause great internal conflict because he feels a normal life is not something he deserves, being below standard as a human being.

Strategy

The growing individual becomes hyper-sensitive to the possibility of being exposed as inadequate, and sees the threat of this exposure everywhere.

His basic strategy for coping with this threat is to manipulate others’ perceptions in advance. Typically this involves:

  • avoiding others’ attention if possible: he will try to divert attention away from himself, keep the focus on other people or things;
  • managing others’ expectations: to lower others’ expectations, he will tend to apologise in advance for every forthcoming “failure” and deliberately act as inadequately as possible so that no-one expects anything else.

Remember, the individual with self-deprecation truly believes in their own inadequcy. They see little point in denying it. Their ploy, then, is one of damage limitation:

I cannot succeed in life, I cannot feel good about myself, I cannot get on with others. The best I can hope for is to limit the damage by hiding myself from view.

If I am belittled, I probably deserve it. But at least if I belittle myself first, I leave others with nothing to belittle me about.

As they enter adulthood, they come to rely on this strategy more and more.

Persona

Emerging into adulthood, the individual probably does not want go around being overtly afraid and insecure about their fundamental inadequacy. Hence the defensive strategy of self-deprecation puts on a mask of invisibility. He will tend to make himself small, silent and invisible; he will tend to talk very quietly, cover his face, look downward. This mask or persona continually says to the world, “I am not here. Look the other way. Pay me no attention. And if you do happen to notice me, don’t expect anything special.”

Outwardly, he also pretends to be the most inadequate person in the world—so that anything he then manages to do just adequately or even better comes as a nice surprise to everyone and might even elicit praise.

He might even become so adept at deliberate self-deprecation that it develops into a personal style of humour, much enjoyed by other people. His obvious lack of arrogance will also be attractive to some. If he completely identifies with the sense of inadequacy, however, this could have a debilitating effect. Whenever he receives praise or appreciation, he will simply not believe it.

All people are capable of this kind of behaviour. When it dominates the personality, however, one is said to have a chief feature of self-deprecation.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t


Positive and Negative Poles

In the case of self-deprecation, the positive pole is termed HUMILITY and the negative pole is termed SELF-ABASEMENT.

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Humility, or modesty, is a state of having little ego or pride, and therefore not trying to elevate yourself in the eyes of others. Ideally, this is a state in which you can appropriately recognise and accept your “ordinariness”. You feel free from ego concerns. We could all do with some humility.

Self-abasement, on the other hand, is a state of excessive, unwarranted humility. In other words, a state of self-inflicted humiliation and degredation. It is a state in which you are trapped in a vicious circle of self-criticism. Even if you come to understand that you have adopted self-deprecation as a false defensive measure, this is just further “proof” of your ultimate inadequacy.

Handling Self-Deprecation

People with self-deprecation may feel constantly ashamed of themselves for no good reason and are often apologising for themselves. Depression is a possible outcome.

As with every chief feature, the key is becoming conscious of how self-deprecation operates in yourself. If you have self-deprecation, you can begin by observing your outward social behaviour and persona in action:

  • Do I criticise or belittle myself to others?
  • Do I try to manipulate how others judge me by lowering their expectations? (e.g., “Knowing me, I’ll probably get it all wrong.”)
  • Do I sometimes exaggerate how incompetent I am in the hope that others will be pleasantly surprised by my results?

Try to catch yourself in the act of putting on your “I’m useless” mask.

Then dig deeper:

  • Why do I try to manipulate others’ perceptions and expectations?
  • Why do their judgements matter to me? What am I afraid of?
  • What do I fear would happen if others saw the reality of me?

Approaching the deepest level you may need outside help in the form of a counsellor, therapist or at least a close friend:

  • Where does this fear of being inadequate come from?
  • How was I hurt?
  • Can I let it go?

Insight in itself will not remove the self-deprecation. By the time you reached adulthood, the neural pathways underlying this defensive pattern were pretty well established in the brain. Nevertheless, the brain is plastic, malleable, reconfigurable. Just as you can become more aware of self-deprecation through self-observation and self-enquiry, so too you can gain more control over it through using that awareness and by exercising choice in the moment.

  • Whenever I am tempted to run myself down before I’ve even done anything, I will now be more willing to let my results speak for themselves.
  • Realistically, I now know that even if I am judged as less than adequate, that will not kill me. It need not even hurt me. I shall pay far less attention to others’ expectations and judgements.

Another way to handle a chief feature is to “slide” to the positive pole of its opposite. In the case of self-deprecation, if you are getting caught in the negative pole of self-abasement (self-inflicted humiliation and degradation), you can re-balance yourself using the positive pole of arrogance, namely pride. In other words,  pay attention to things that make you feel truly proud of yourself. Better still, do things that make you feel truly proud.

Notes

[1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/self-deprecation

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-deprecation

[3] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/self-deprecating

Further Reading

Transforming Your Dragons

For an excellent book about the various negative patterns and how to handle them, see Transforming Your Dragons by José Stevens.

The 7 archetypes of fear - cover

Another great book about the seven character flaws, recently translated from the original German: The Seven Archetypes of Fear, by Varda Hasselmann and Frank Schmolke.

The Seven Chief Features

Self-Deprecation | Self-Destruction | Martyrdom

| Stubbornness |

Greed | Arrogance | Impatience

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176 Responses to “Self-Deprecation”


  1. 1 Stuart 07 Jul 2013 at 12:58 am

    I have been struggling very badly with this my whole life. I was a very quiet and painfully thin kid, and was teased and bullied mercilessly throughout my younger years, in addition to having an overly critical father who abandoned my family when I was 13.

    Now, it is 30 years later and I have spent the majority of that time mired in depression, shame and worthlessness. My outward behavior has run the gamut from everything from full on uncensored self-deprecation, to outrageous arrogance.

    The last few years I have managed to find kind of a middle ground of the persona I present. I *usually* am able to accept praise and compliments without making a self deprecaitng remark. I keep the anger I feel over “ending up” this way in check most of the time. Basically, I have more or less simply settled for presenting a persona to the world that helps me just “get by” without seeming too weird or “off” to the casual observer or outlying acquaintences.

    But, as I’m sure you know, this does not work at all in any kind of relationship beyond semi-casual. I’ve had so many close-interpersonal relationships fall apart, that for most of my adult life I stopped trying and instead chose to live a mostly solitary lifestyle.

    In the last 5 years or so I started trying again to form bonds with people, and the results have been less than spectacular. I am terrified to let anyone know how I feel about myself deep-down. I always assume judgment, and then abandonment will follow the exact point that the persona slips, and any little hint of what’s really underneath is shown.

    It’s happening again right now. I’ve been dating a wonderful girl for the last 4 months. She seems very taken with the person she thinks I am, that being: a kind, easy going, funny and intelligent guy. SHe also tells me constantly how handsome she thinks I am. It is very hard to accept these praises, but for the most part I either just say “thank you” in response, or make the very slightest humorfull, self deprecating comment. Just enough so it looks like I am not all full of myself.

    Well, this arrangement was going ok for a while. But now we are at the point where she is telling me she loves me. I feel the same way back, but am wracked with terror that she fell in love with a lie.

    A couple of nights ago, we were lying in bed and I had been having a particularly hard day, struggling with my depression and anxiety and my constant inner voice that tells me I am a fraud who doesn’t deserve any happiness whatsoever, and certainly not anything as wonderful as feeling loved by anyone else. I’d also been drinking that night and had insomnia the night before.

    She picked the exact wrong moment to tell me again how much she loves me, and with all the factors of the previous paragraph in alignment, I was unable to fight it off anymore.

    I went and asked her “why?… I don’t understand why you love me” and then I started to cry a little. It was all a little hazy after that, but I believe I told her about past struggles with anxiety and depression (that run in my family), and how sometimes it is hard for me to accept love and kindness, and on RARE occasion I might get like how I was acting, etc etc.

    I managed to reel it back in to the point where *maybe* she still thinks what she knows from the last 4 months is the “real” me, and that I just had a moment of weakness while a little drunk and depressed. Basically all I managed was some damage control. I kept the persona from slipping completely and will now have to work overtime to keep it going a little longer, pretending more than ever to be totally happy, confident and without flaws.

    We fell asleep and the next day I acted as if everything was perfectly fine and told her she doesn’t need to worry about me, I was just drunk and tired and won’t be getting all emotional like that on a regular basis. She claims that she doesn’t think any different of me, and it hasn’t changed her feelings for me at all. But of course I find that impossible to believe and figure now she is just biding her time before she can abandon me on some other pretext, rather than tell me the truth. That now she has seen she was tricked into loving someone who doesn’t exist.

    All I can think is I made a bad mistake in trying to let anyone in closer than arm’s length, and I should just go back to meaningless flings that end as quickly as they begin.

    I’m just SO SO tired of feeling this way. It’s always been bad, but in the last few years it has become close to maddening.

    • 2 barry 10 Jul 2013 at 1:02 pm

      Hi Stuart,

      First, my heartfelt sympathies for your difficult childhood experiences – parental abandonment on top of bullying and “unacceptable” introversion sounds just awful. Second, my thanks for your lucid description of how it has been for you. I am sure we can all learn from it.

      It is not uncommon for the persona to swing from one style to the opposite in a desperate attempt to see what works. Not only do we hide the part of us that we fear exposing, but we also try to hide the fact that we are hiding. People who are self-deprecating (self-doubting, self- disparaging) might try out being superior and above-it-all, for example, just as those who are arrogant (self-important, disdainful) might try to being openly self-deprecating, modest and humble. Then again, people who are self-deprecating might put on a self- deprecating act, while those who are arrogant might put on an arrogant act. It’s like a double-bluff – “As you can see, I am openly trying to come across as superior (or inferior), which therefore obviously means I don’t secretly need to feel superior (or don’t actually feel inferior).”

      I think as we get older and – hopefully – more mature, there is a natural tendency for the negative attitude to lose ground. It has less fear to work with. Some people might just become resigned to it, but with a bit of self-observation and insight there is also the possibility of “taming” it. Like an unruly pet, we learn what provokes it and what keeps it at bay, so it is easier to dance around it.

      But as you point out, this is easier in superficial relationships than in intimate relationships, where the sense of personal exposure is ramped up to the max. Indeed, it has to be if one is to have a successful mature relationship. It is heart-breaking to read that you are terrified of that deeper exposure. But I see a number of ironies:

      1. The chances are, you are a sensitive guy – the sort of guy that many women the world over are crying out for.
      2. The perfect “cure” for such fear of exposure is deliberate exposure, carefully managed, such that it results in acceptance and intimacy.
      3. The reason why you experience “abandonment” — an interesting re-enactment of your childhood, by the way — whenever you drop the persona, is not because the “real” you is unbearable but because the other person realises you have been hiding from them behind a persona. It would be unusually enlightened of them not to take that personally. Also, it is stressful and hard work for a person to commit to being with someone who is terrified of being real. Just as it is stressful and hard work for you to keep up a false act.

      So there is a built-in vicious circle. If you hide away your inadequate self, and work hard at presenting some other persona to the world, then that will get you by to some extent – i.e. to the extent that people don’t know you and don’t want to know you better. But it will block you from the real acceptance and intimacy and the sort of loving relationship you desire. So long as you are aware of yourself secretly hiding from the world behind a false front, you will have that “constant inner voice that tells me I am a fraud.” If you drop the persona, you are no longer a fraud – you are a human being, vulnerable … but honest and loveable.

      I note that you describe your persona in the eyes of your current girlfriend as kind, easygoing, funny and intelligent. Oh yes, and handsome. The word “persona” however implies that these qualities are fake, though I have a feeling she might be smart enough to see beyond any surface pretence. I suspect that those are qualities of the real you, leaking out, but you are attributing them to the persona you are so busily presenting.

      I understand how hard it must be for you to accept any normal, positive and desirable qualities that people see in you as true, partly because of your sense of being a fraud, and partly lest it come across as arrogance (“full of myself”). I think this is common with self-deprecation. On the one hand, there is a neurotic fear of exposure, with an expectation of public judgement, shaming and humiliation because everything about oneself is either false or inadequate. On the other hand, there is a deep dislike of arrogance, which is fair enough. But the fear of exposure is so ultra-sensitive that even having or owning a single good quality is seen as arrogance. “If I were to admit that I am highly intelligent, then I would be putting myself above the majority, but that sounds disgustingly arrogant, especially when the truth is I am nothing.”

      I can offer a couple of suggestions to help you break out of the vicious circle, both of which will be challenging, but hopefully you will find that they are right and appropriate:

      1. Be willing to have, recognise, own and express positive qualities in yourself, such as looks, intelligence … whatever, especially (but not just) those which others feed back to you. It is illogical that you do not (or cannot, or should not) have good, admirable qualities. Everyone does. Realistic pride in one’s better qualities is not the same as arrogance. You are perfectly entitled to have great qualities, and to acknowledge, embrace, and feel good about whatever is good and admirable in you.

      2. Be willing to talk honestly about your inner sense of inadequacy (or whatever word/phrase best fits for you) to those who want to know you better, especially your girlfriend. Tell them this is strictly private and confidential, if you need to be sure you can trust them. But you do have to be honest with them about it, just as you have been here, otherwise sooner or later they are going to sense that you are being phoney in some way.

      Fact: They almost certainly won’t judge you for having always felt deeply “inadequate” or whatever.

      Fact: They almost certainly WILL reject you for continually hiding your real self behind a false front.

      In a way, your hiding is not very respectful to them. You are giving them a message that goes something like, “You are not be trusted with the real me, so you will just have to make do with my superficial act. And I hope you aren’t smart enough to see through it.” Who wants to put up with that as the core of a relationship?

      Exposing your inner self as you have here is – as far as your underlying fear is concerned – the ultimate risk that you are supposed to avoid. But in reality it is THE direct path out of that very fear. Just make it as safe for yourself as you can – do it in a quiet place where you are alone together, so that if either of you breaks down in tears that’s absolutely fine.

      I don’t underestimate the scale of fear and risk you might feel about all this. I’ve been there. But by taking the risk, you undermine that defensive misconception that you should never be real.

      And the right girl will absolutely love you and admire you all the more for taking that risk. Real intimacy is like a beautiful treasure you can share with another – and the only price you have to pay is complete honesty.

      Good luck,

      Barry

    • 3 Megan myers 10 Sep 2015 at 4:20 pm

      Stuart you are loved eternally by our great God and Father of our Lord Jesus. Look for him in your life and not the imaginary person you depend on, understandably so. Our earthly parents, and all who follow love imperfectly but God loves perfectly. As a child I had a cloak of invisibility. I’m still surprised when others notice me but I know now that Christ is the One who gives meaning to our lives. “The life that I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son if God who loved me and gave himself for me.” Galatians 2:20.

  2. 4 Elaine 26 Jul 2013 at 3:26 pm

    Some really interesting stuff, here – lots of it is actually contained in the comments! It’s especially interesting to see and read the personal opinions of individuals who have actually EXPERIENCED self-deprecating behaviours; as opposed to just the opinions of so-called “experts” who merely postulate about it.

    There is much that I agree with, in that what is written makes perfect sense. This I can say with absolute certainty, given that I live constantly with the problem of self-deprecation, so I understand it in a personal sense. However, I am also qualified as a Social Worker, and am currently undertaking Postgraduate study in Psychology – so I additionally have a “professional” perspective on the matter.

    Alas, in my experience, the personal and the professional do not always agree, and see eye-to-eye. What I understand of self-deprecation certainly agrees to a large extent with what is suggested here. I do believe that it is the direct consequence of our early childhood, and teenage, experiences. In my case, I came from a complicated and dysfunctional home life. My mother has mental health issues (Bi Polar Disorder), which resulted in a lot of problematic early experiences for me. These, in turn, I believe, lead to my self-deprecating behaviour.

    My mother’s first “breakdown” came shortly after she gave birth to me. This resulted in my being fostered with an uncle and aunt. Psychologically speaking, there is a term called “ATTACHMENT”; this is the close bond formed between an infant and its primary caregiver (i.e. the person who is to nurture and rear the child). Much work in the field of “Attachment Theory” has been undertaken by John Bowlby (1950’s – 1970’s), and, earlier, Mary Ainsworth (the originator of the “Strange Situation Test”). Both Bowlby and Ainsworth agreed that a secure and stable attachment between parental figure and child was required in order for the child to grow up to be healthy, happy, and to “function normally”. Any disruption of an attachment, therefore, is likely to cause problems.

    Given that my fostering took place when I was such a small baby, I believe that it prevented me from forming a stable bond with both my mother, and my father. My mother describes me as having been a “cranky, restless child” and as “always crying… not sleeping well through the night”. She also tells me that she could not cope with my crying, because I cried when she left me, but also if she tried to pick me up (a sure sign of a problematic attachment).

    Sadly, I was fostered on further occasions as a child – again because of my mother’s illness and relapses – I went to live with my grandparents for short periods, always returning home afterwards. I was also sent at a very early age (@ 2 years) to Nursery School, and commenced full time at Primary School a year early, aged only 3, because my mother says she could not handle having a child at home with her.

    I firmly believe that this set the stage for my later feelings of rejection, and for my feeling “unwanted” and “unloved” by my parents. Due to circumstances beyond our control, my parents and I were separated for several periods of time. I suspect that these periods of disruption made it harder for me to bond with my parents. Perhaps I felt afraid to bond, in case I was taken from them again? Perhaps I secretly wondered if they wished for me to live with them permanently, or if they wanted to “give me away”? I know that, growing up, I have asked these questions rhetorically on a number of occasions.

    I can definitely identify with what is said about early childhood trauma, or traumatic experiences, and their relationship to self-deprecating behaviour in later life. Needless to say, with a Bi Polar parent, childhood is not always easy. I was confused as to why my mother seemed “different” from other mothers. I didn’t understand why, on some days, she was “high”, and at other times depressed, and constantly tired. When she was unwell, she could not spend quality time with me, doing things that other mothers might do with a child.

    Both parents, to be truthful, were a source of distress. They were controlling and demanding. I was expected to get top grades at school, to dress as they chose, not to “get in their way” if they were busy. My father was particularly AUTHORITARIAN, demanding respect and obedience. Combined with this, he was also fiery-tempered, distant, and emotionally unavailable. My mother was anxious, “neurotic” and prone to over-react, turning seemingly innocuous matters into high drama. I was highly aware that if I had any problems, I could not expect to discuss them with my parents, or to seek advice or assistance. In fact, it was best not to tell my parents. They were generally of the opinion that I was to “grow up and sort it” myself.

    Affection was not common in our household. My parents were not demonstrative in any way. We did not hug, or kiss, or publicly hold hands. We did not openly say we loved each other. Praise was rarely forthcoming – my parents were of that sort, where, if I got several A grades at school, they would only notice any LOWER grade I got, and ask why I had not worked at that subject!

    This is just a description of my EARLY childhood. I will gloss over my TEENAGE years, if I may. Suffice it to say, they were incredibly painful, and very traumatic. I was BULLIED persistently throughout my time at School, from Primary School right through to leaving Secondary School – most of the bullying relating to my mother’s illness, and my academia – accusations of “cheating” or of being “tutored”, comments to the effect of “you cannot be that clever, your mother’s a nutter”.

    I was a teenage REBEL. I rebelled against the bullies, staying away from School when I could. I rebelled against my parents; this resulted in numerous (and escalating) arguments and fights. I attempted more than once to run away from home. Allow me to say only that fear, and a need for self-preservation, drove me to this. My parents TRULY believe in CORPORAL PUNISHMENT.

    There is a tendency to describe self-deprecation as a sort of “DEFENCE MECHANISM” along the lines of those proposed by Sigmund and Anna Freud (1930’s). This places self-deprecation in the category of FALSE PERSONA (as you have written). I would argue that this is not strictly correct.

    In my experience, an individual often has some degree of awareness of a false persona, and may well know when they have deliberately chosen to adopt it. The adoption of a false persona can therefore be a CONSCIOUS act. Yes, it might be argued that defence mechanisms, too, are deliberately adopted by individuals in order to help deal with particular situations. In this sense, their adoption may lead to the creation of a false persona.

    However, I feel that it is actually a far more subtle and insidious process. You suggest that self-deprecation is a strategy for coping based upon deliberate and advance manipulation of other people’s expectations – i.e. that the self-deprecating person “jumps in first” to put him/herself down, before others can do it. True, this may well happen – BUT IT IS NOT ALWAYS A CONSCIOUS ACT.

    The truly self-deprecating person may well be unaware as to how they act. It has become perfectly “natural” for them to behave in this manner. They genuinely BELIEVE that they are worthless, and so whatever they say is, in their eyes, true. They are not trying to “disarm” another person, or to lower their expectations in the hope that this will draw attention away from the actions of the self-deprecator. No, they are simply stating fact. They believe that they have no worth, and cannot do things to an acceptable standard. Thus, the need to constantly apologise for their actions may be GENUINE.

    Both from personal, and from professional, experience, I am well aware that the more people are told something about themselves, the more they come to believe it. This is true both for positive, and negative, statements. So, if a person endlessly hears, as they are growing up, “that was rubbish”, “don’t do that, it’s silly”, “you stupid…”, “go away, you’re wasting my time”, “you lazy brat, you only got a C”… and endless permutations… they may well come to believe that what is said, is true.

    As we grow and develop, we form internal models that tell us how we see the world about us, how it functions, our place in it, others’ places in it. These internal images are called SCHEMAS. Dependent upon our life experiences, they can be negative, or positive. Information that we receive from outside sources (e.g. parents, teachers, friends) is internalised, and becomes the foundation of our schemas. Thus, if we receive mainly negative information about ourselves, and the world about us, our schemas will be correspondingly negative.

    In this way, the process of child to adult development becomes increasingly complex. We are never isolated entities – rather we exist within society, and the world at large. Our actions are determined by multiple factors – including our personality traits, our schemas, and the continuing influence of other people. In turn, we affect the behaviour and actions of those about us. SYMBIOSIS, of a twisted sort of nature!

    People who are self-deprecating have been reared in such a way as to have ingrained negative experiences, and negative beliefs about themselves. They have simply heard the negative far too often for it (in their eyes) not to be true! Their schemas are probably negative, thus their views about themselves, and the world in general, may be negative.

    However, what they believe, is also, to them, VERY REAL. It is not an “act”. Their behaviour is not really the adoption of a false persona. It is the behaviour of somebody who feels truly worthless – who has been raised in the belief that their worthlessness is FACT.

    We must all be sensitive to the fact that childhood trauma can lead to multiple problems in ADULTHOOD. Not least of these is POST TRAUMATIC STRESS; a disorder in which the individual has been so affected by past trauma as to be unable to function effectively in the present. Post Traumatic Stress can lead to numerous symptoms, including the following:
    1. A need to avoid or escape any situation which reminds the sufferer of past traumatic experience.
    2. Low self-esteem and lack of self confidence.
    3. Feelings of worthlessness, inadequacy and guilt.
    4. “Flashbacks” – where the sufferer re-lives past trauma in their head, experiencing it as though it is real, and current.
    5. Nightmares – dreaming about the trauma.
    6. Hypervigilance – increased awareness, and sensitivity to the possibility of future trauma; nervousness, “jumpiness” and anxiety.
    7. Feeling detached and emotionally numb.
    8. Sense of a foreshortened future, or of inability to succeed – believing that you will never get married, achieve academically, have a career, and such like.

    Recognise any of these? Yes? Interesting, isn’t it, how similar some of them are to what the so-called self-deprecating person feels and does!
    I can assure you that I re-live many aspects of MY childhood trauma, even as a adult. I can also assure you that this has a MAJOR effect upon my self-deprecating behaviour. The reason being is this…

    Whenever I find myself in a situation that does accidentally remind me of past troubles – particularly of being bullied – I experience FLASHBACKS. To this day, I can see my bullies clearly; especially their faces; I can hear their words, I can recall all their names. When this happens, I find myself fumbling for words, apologising for myself… in sum, self-deprecating all the more!

    Barry, what you say here about the act of self-deprecation is, in the main, highly accurate. However, personal observation of the issue (and what could be more astute than that?) leads me to believe that self-deprecation is more than a mere DEFENSE MECHANISM. The rationale behind it is far more complex than might at first be thought, and the nature of the act of self-deprecation is therefore determined by a far larger number of factors than have been adequately considered here. Besides, the behaviour itself, in that it becomes so ingrained in a person’s psyche, could well be considered UNCONSCIOUS. Given that we are not always aware of the real reasons for our unconscious acts, it thus becomes very hard to truly and accurately explain why individuals self-deprecate. The reasons are personal – and as individual as each and every one of us. A THEORY as to self-deprecation can therefore only be a GENERALISATION.

    By the way… sorry this is so long. Had a lot of thoughts on the matter!
    To assist – any words I have typed in capitals, or names of any writers/authors listed can be looked-up on Google (or similar), should readers wish to find out more about them.

    • 5 barry 26 Jul 2013 at 5:54 pm

      Hi Elaine,

      Thank you so much for you eloquent and insightful dissection of self-deprecation.

      I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say, so I wonder if I have given a misleading impression somewhere. To be clear, I’m not equating self-deprecation just with a self-deprecating persona or front. In the model I’ve outlined, the whole self-deprecating “complex” or “tendency” begins in early experiences which form an unconscious – but utterly believed – sense of self as being “less than”. That is the crux of it. The more superficial strategy for interacting with others is adopted in adulthood just as a way to get along in ordinary life whilst inwardly feeling ultimately and irrevocably inferior. There can of course be different strategies, and I guess I’ve really only covered one in the article – the lowering of others’ expectations. But I’m aware that some people swing to the opposite – faking a sense of superiority. And some people just avoid interacting as much as possible, so there is little or no need for a false persona. I think a lot depends on other aspects of the personality. In my case, in addition to my own self-deprecating mindset, I also had (and still have) an enormous urge to get on and live life to the full, so I have always had this restlessness and a determination not to let even my own shadow hold me back.

      Also, speaking for myself, there came a point at which I started to question the validity of my sense of inferiority. How could it be that I was born “less than” others? No matter how much I felt it emotionally, I could see that logically it didn’t quite add up. So that, for me, was the point at which the unconscious self-deprecation became a more conscious issue. I didn’t have an insights into its origins and dynamics, but I could at least see that it was an unusual thing for me to believe about myself and I started to experiment with different strategies.

      I do accept, though, that most people do not even get that far. Their self-doubts and self-disparaging thoughts and feelings remain intact and unquestioned until the day they die. Which is awful, really – so isolating.

      Thanks again,

      Barry

  3. 6 Anon 02 Sep 2013 at 6:10 am

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  4. 7 margo 05 Sep 2013 at 8:19 am

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    • 8 barry 05 Sep 2013 at 9:25 am

      I have no idea what you are talking about, but thanks anyway.

  5. 9 Cydia-App 05 Sep 2013 at 5:16 pm

    Good Article 🙂
    Helped me 😉

  6. 10 Timbo 08 Sep 2013 at 4:10 pm

    While I find your article interesting l do feel it is incomplete in not recognising nor addressing the mysterious issue of people who are very masochistic in their thinking, perhaps having what is sometimes termed a “self defeating” personality disorder.

    I do not think your various sub headings adequately recognise that aspet of this subject? That is some men and some women do really greatly enjoy gratification from self depreciation ideas involving themselves being defeated and humiliated about their inferior performance relative to others or another individual of same or opposite gender to themself.This sometimes happens just in their fantasy world, but can also sometimes intrude into their real world life?

    • 11 barry 18 Sep 2013 at 8:42 pm

      Hi Timbo

      That’s a really fascinating question. Thank you!

      I think the key is the driving force behind the behaviour – is it a negative motivation or a positive motivation – fear or fulfilment?

      The defining feature of masochism is that being a victim in some way is a source of pleasure, satisfaction, fulfilment. This distinguishes it from the chief features (negative attitudes / character flaws) of self-deprecation, self-destruction and martyrdom, as the chief features are not attempts to derive pleasure but are anxiety-driven attempts to avoid one’s worst fear or deepest terror.

      I am guessing that the involvement of pleasure/satisfaction indicates that what we are seeing is not a chief feature in action but the individual’s life GOAL. In particular, those with the goal of Rejection derive pleasure and satisfaction from being rejected. They feel validated by it. The aim of living for Rejection is to be true to one’s individuality regardless of what anyone else thinks. In its more positive form, this means developing a highly refined sense of judgement. In its more negative form, it means getting a kick out of eliciting hostility. “Whenever someone punches me, I know that I am right.”

      It is also possible that masochists have a goal of Submission (rather than, say, a chief feature of Self-Deprecation. A person with Self-Deprecation sees public exposure of their inherent inadequacies as a crisis to be avoided at all costs. A person with masochistic tendencies sees positions of subservience and helplessness as unusually attractive and exciting, or perhaps comforting.

      I’m less clear about self-defeating personality disorder. It seems to me to be closer to Martyrdom than Self-Deprecation. Those with a self-defeating personality seem to engineer their own downfall in every possible situation — not because they like being incapable and unsuccessful, but because they want to demonstrate that they really, really are victims of others’ unreasonable treatment. In this case, it’s not that they derive pleasure from being victims, but that they get to vent some of their pent-up fury at being a victim … and at the same time reinforce their victim status as a “fact” for all to see.

      Hmm, I’m sure there’s a lot more to look at here. Time I started yet another new notebook!

      Cheers

      Barry

  7. 12 Schnelles Abnehmen 09 Sep 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Nice Website man, thanks and greetz.

  8. 13 no one important 14 Sep 2013 at 1:38 am

    I hate myself I feel inadequate … so many people say im beautiful and awsome I think total opposite of myself and now everytime I hear anyone talk of how good or nice or perfect i am I feel terrible inside an inner scream that haunts and taunts me….I dont think i can have children…I suck as a person I think I should die…what on earth am i here for….whats my worth when i feel like a piece of trash dont even wanna have sex with my bf because he wants a baby as much as I dobut cant concieve he will probally leave me for another and have a baby with them…meanwhile i have nothing to look forward to i see others happy i want to be..my sisters have kids not me…all my friends just about too not me….I suck im 27 and I suck im a failure i ought to just die right….right

    • 14 barry 22 Sep 2013 at 10:25 pm

      Hi there, and thanks for sharing how it is for you.

      I will begin by saying that there is no reason for you to die. No one would benefit from that, not even you. Life is the opportunity to change everything.

      The challenge you face is to recognise your true worth and value as a being in your own right. You do not have to do anything or prove anything to see such things, or to earn the right to be here. You are perfectly entitled to exist just as you are. You are also perfectly entitled to change and grow in any way you choose.

      It sounds like you have a very negative image of yourself, almost as though you (or your mind) will not allow a single positive thing to be said about you. I do not know the origins of this, though you might. A couple of scenarios come to mind, though bear in mind these are pure speculation on my part and I could be way off target, but hopefully something might be triggered if you reflect:

      1) Perhaps something very painful happened to you, perhaps associated with your good looks or good nature, so now you despise those aspects of yourself as the source of your worst pain/terror, and maybe you are even overlooking and denying those aspects to avoid future pain/terror. As a result, you can no longer even see those positive aspects of you. You have dissociated from your bigger, better self and you have become excessively and exclusively identified with a small, insignificant part of yourself.

      2) Perhaps you have been conditioned by the words and actions of others to hold a purely negative self-image. If an adult repeatedly tells a child that they are a stupid child, then the child will come to believe “I am stupid” as a simple fact of life, and will act stupid, even if in fact they are quite smart. Might you have been repeatedly or systematically put down by others around you, especially parents or elder siblings?

      3) Has someone in your life died – someone who was much loved and admired, full of life and potential, and compared to whom you seem a poor substitute? In such a circumstance, a person’s mind can start thinking “Why should I live instead of this great individual who so was much better than me?”

      4) Another possibility to think over: Guilt. One of the reasons why people sometimes get trapped in a self-loathing state is that they know they have done things in the past which they now see as wrong or immoral or unacceptable – so much so that they dare not admit to such acts even now, out of fear of complete rejection. Also, they will not allow themselves to experience any pleasure or success in life, as they feel that they don’t deserve it. So they carry around with them this untouchable inner secret, like a horrible black monster growing inside themselves, which no one must ever know about. And the more they try to “act normal” in order to fit in, the more fraudulent they feel because they’re not revealing this “true” self, the monster within. And any opportunity for a better life is immediately avoided or sabotaged, because while carrying their secret guilt they refuse to allow themselves to become happy.

      As I say, I don’t know the origins of your self-loathing, but here are some possibilities it might be worth your while exploring. At 27, you are far too young to be writing yourself off as a worthless failure. I hardly know a thing about you, but I do know that you are a valuable being in your own right, and that the path to joy is always open to you. As ever, that path is one of exploring and acknowledging hidden truths.

      Barry

  9. 15 samantha 15 Sep 2013 at 2:47 pm

    I have been doing ok the past 8-9 months with no self medicateing what so ever. But yest at a family meal with ALL my family a cousin asked did I know such a person that said they knew me, n the persons a friend of my ex n knows all my history n drug use ect n my cousin was texting laughing while saying it ect n my whole mind set changed, I felt sooooo self conscious n wanted to run away cause she knew wat I’d done. I am terrified to make a friend incase they find out I was a lowlife druggy, cause wer I live n how I speak you’d never think it but everyone finds out. Plus my ex doesn’t like me socializing so he would spread rhumers n stuff too n I can’t cope so I just stay in, when I do go out I’m depressed for days depending on how it goes…..

    • 16 barry 25 Sep 2013 at 12:28 pm

      Hi Samantha

      It’s sad to hear of the sort of social environment you live in where people are judged for their past.

      I think the challenge for you is to be yourself and actually take pride in the fact that while you were once a “druggy”, now you are not. You have been there, hit the bottom, learned something, and come out the other side. That surely makes you a bigger, stronger person. You have grown through something.

      Those who condemn or scorn former drug users are clueless about the whole situation. I can see why you would want to avoid all contact with such people. If that is not an option, though, perhaps you can confront them with their ignorance and lack of compassion. There are some good books out there as well as websites that might give you ideas to help you fight your corner and command respect instead of suffer ridicule.

      Maybe start here:

      http://www.netplaces.com/addiction-recovery/how-addictions-affect-family-members/communication-is-key.htm

  10. 17 Arthur 22 Sep 2013 at 9:18 am

    Thanks for this I’ve always had this issue and wanted to understand it. he Your analysis is refreshingly frank, unlike the cloying and imposing optimistic advice out there that comes across as a bunch of trashy, sappy, insincere platitudes.

    • 18 barry 25 Sep 2013 at 7:54 pm

      Thanks Arthur
      B

  11. 19 Heizkissen 24 Sep 2013 at 10:49 pm

    Good post !!!

  12. 20 Shey 08 Oct 2013 at 8:18 pm

    I have been stuggling with self-deprecation for many years now, but only now realising the term. I was looking for the wrong terms and phrases on the net to try and diagnose myself. Alas, here it is. With better understanding comes betterment (For the lack of a better word)

    This site will be favorited and regulary viewed.

    Thanks Barry!

    • 21 barry 08 Oct 2013 at 8:23 pm

      cheers, Shey

  13. 22 Damon Simms 29 Oct 2013 at 7:11 pm

    This is close to what I have but I don’t manipulate others

  14. 23 zemazem 14 Nov 2013 at 11:55 pm

    childhood abandonment emotionally and physically, created this feeling of inadequacy. To deal with this i designed a style of humour as a teenager and i hid from people as best i could. As i matured in my early twenties, i began to utilize this self deprecation as a thirst to improve in my art and to gain self mastery. For a while I thought I was arrogant because because I gain so much pride in what I had learned and mastered, but it hit me arrogance cannot conceive of its own arroganceness(haha not a word I know, the self deprecate in me had to make these brackets). As a king soul self deprecation has been such a blessing and im thankful for this energy in my life. All the best to all who read this and to you and your site mr barry.

  15. 24 Wish 27 Dec 2013 at 12:11 am

    Why have I always been ignored?
    The other day I was laying in bed remembering a lot of times in my life when I spoke to people and nobody’s listening to me at all. I know they weren’t doing it intentionally, and as I’ve got older I’ve found out the reason why: people assume I will either say something daft, or not speak at all, and so their social minds are just tuned in to people who are more worth being with than me and so they just stay focused on them all the time. It’s an automatic thing a lot of people seem to have, they can’t help it, and they don’t mean to be like it – even really nice people still can be like this. The only time people mostly have their undivided attention to me is when I’m the only one with them who they can talk to. I can then get into a good conversation then. But when there’s a group of people, I tend to get ignored no matter how hard I try to join in. OK, people sometimes go out of their way to speak to me but that’s about it. I can’t speak first without being ignored, and I’ve got sick of it. It isn’t fair, will this be happening to me for the rest of my life? I suppose it will.

  16. 25 kristi 04 Jan 2014 at 3:41 pm

    Interesting. I have heard teachings that say this form of behavior is actually an upside down ‘pride.’ It still displays an obsession with ‘self’ rather than freedom from ‘self.’

    • 26 barry 23 Jan 2014 at 8:36 pm

      Well, you could say that self-deprecation/disparagement is an obsession with what’s deplorable and inferior about oneself relative to others, while arrogance is an obsession with what’s superior or special about oneself relative to others.
      Barry

  17. 27 Troy 23 Jan 2014 at 1:55 am

    This thread seems to focus on all the psychological “negatives” of self-deprecating. I choose to use self-deprecation in my leadership style. I self-deprecate to prevent the perception of arrogance. I have accomplished everything I have ever set out to do and have an amazing life. My family and kids are incredible and I have more than I deserve. (there is some of it) I am internally arrogant but never want to tell anyone of my successes. I find it hard to fail and tend to have a superiority complex which I am not proud of. I do not post pictures of my amazing life on facebook, etc. because I have the sense that it is bragging. I call it humble and I am not in a position to tell anyone how to live their life. I believe that self-deprecation is a leadership quality that can be used effectively in gaining trust. Maybe this is a little different perspective??? Maybe it is a defense mechanism….. Doctors would have a field day with me!!!! 🙂

    • 28 barry 23 Jan 2014 at 7:07 pm

      Hi Troy

      Basically, yes, the focus here is on the negatives – this page is about when self-deprecation (self-disparagement etc) is a powerful, negative force in the personality. Some people cope with that by being “invisible”, some by managing others’ expectations, and some by feigning arrogance as a way to avoid the feelings of smallness and shame.

      Some people are aware of their negative or ‘dark’ traits and try to manage them, while some people aren’t aware of theirs at all and just act out.

      In your case, you are clearly aware that you have a negative tendency to arrogance, but you don’t want to exhibit it because you perceive it as unacceptable, so you strategically act (as you say) in a self-deprecating manner.

      I hope that clarifies the difference!

      Cheers

      Barry

  18. 29 Rhonda Dangerfield 26 Jan 2014 at 7:12 pm

    Avoidant Personality Disorder. But, they do not take any criticism well. They are seriously passive aggressive underachievers, opportunists who look for underhanded passive aggressive ways to undermine others who are working very hard to accomplish something or create solutions. Ultra hypersensitive to criticism from others. How dare anyone expect anything from them!!!

    ^ [Those are rather judgemental generalisations. – Barry]

    • 30 Rachael 19 Sep 2014 at 5:54 pm

      You’re an ass.

      [Request: Avoid going on the offensive if you can, please. – Barry]

      People that struggle with this have deeper issues they need to work out.

      You have no empathy whatsoever and are therefore, a terrible human being.

      [As above.]

    • 31 Emma 28 Sep 2014 at 10:38 pm

      That’s not true for everyone… If you’re suffering from this…(as said above) you seriously believe everyone is better than you and you try and fade yourself out…I can see what you mean and it’s something sort of similar but you can agree with the person and believe you add nothing to people’s lives so it wouldn’t really matter if you did anything like that it would have no affect because of your feeling of insignificance … Depends how you react as a person and how bad your self deprication is i gyess

  19. 32 ube55 09 Mar 2014 at 2:13 am

    Hi Barry. I was lead to your site coz i asked google…. I have been a dutiful daughter, a self-giving sister, a law-abiding citizen, a loving and dedicated mother, an ever ready helping hand to anyone – known or unknown, yet, it seems life is not that ‘real good’ to me! I was only 10 yrs old then when my father started professing that I won’t be able to finish my studies because i will marry at an early age. He had uttered those lines when he is drunk and it had become a yearly ritual for him to censure me. Being a dutiful daughter and with Filipino customs not to answer back elders, i have just cried myself to sleep and in my young mind, i have comforted myself that when i grow up, I will prove him wrong. That I will finish my studies and find work and I will repay everything, as in everything, down to the last penny – all that they have spent on me to grow up. And those words, kept me from getting friendly with the opposite sex. And I grew up with such bitterness, and believing that my father does not approve of me. And never have i heard from him an affirmation. And in college, I kept company with gays, i felt happy and secure with them. Never had i experience a romantic relationship to the opposite sex with fear that what my father thought of me will be true. And, I finished college, graduated in time… then I worked….. a year after working in this big company, my father had the opportunity for the ‘homily moment’ with me. And, since i have graduated, this was what he had to say… since that i had started work, i have become arrogant already and that when he and my mother will be old and gray, i will just push them on one corner, letting them eat in a coconut shell and to completely disrespect them and disregard them… And, at that moment, I was 23 yrs old and heard him accusing me of such rubbish…and defenseless still, just cried myself and i thought, I can never, never please my father. He and my mother, brought me up in a manner that I will always have to give way to my younger sisters, 3 of them. As i was the eldest among the daughers and 1 big brother, they would repeatedly demarcate – i need not argue with my elder brother coz he is an elder. I should give due respect. and with my sisters, I must always set a very good example and give way since I am the eldest among the girls. That left me a big question – So, where do I belong? and my sisters, grew up in that mentality, that i must always give in and make way. And even in our adult life, I have never got back at them even if they have hurled hurting words at me. And that, I have gotten so used, that I try to understand them…. Self-deprecating? I want to break lose from these…. I am now in this moment of my life, in hiatus,,,, specially with financial aspect of my life. And I wonder, is this a kind of punishment? I thank God, for this cyberage, I have looked into all these self-help sites trying to find a better understanding of why these things is happening now that I am 54 yrs old, trying to find an answer, and hopefully, help me define, why i have to go through what i am going through. Your article Barry is of great help…. i am in progress…. I just want to share, I am in good health and my three kids, 18, 17 & 11 are most understanding with our situation……

  20. 33 Wolfgang 31 Mar 2014 at 5:15 am

    Low self esteem can leave us afraid to try new things because we fear that we will fail. However, the challenge of self esteem building is to embrace new things and to give yourself the opportunity to enjoy them, just because you deserve it. Taking up a new hobby can be a fantastic step towards overcoming low self esteem. Spending time with like minded people and enjoying an activity purely for fun, with no pressure, is a good way to feel better about yourself; you may even discover a hidden talent into the bargain!

  21. 34 anand 21 May 2014 at 7:47 am

    came across this site trying to solve my problems related to blockages in my mind that is preventing me from feeling worthy of any success or happiness.whatever i do ,i expect the worst outcome as i feel i dont deserve nice things. i hve developed social anxiety lately(past 2 years) as i see myself as a failure and lower othrs expectations of me, try to be invisible nd dont trust any compliments frm anyone.
    I hve developed health problems due to not taking care of myself. there r very few things that i really like to do but hve started doubting myself with those things too.( my parents had lot of expectations frm me as l had top grades till highschool, but they consider me as a failure now cos i didnt get in a good college( even i feel like a failure). they always used sarcasm towards me frm my childhood , my father treated our family like crap, now he’s changed but i cannot forgive him.
    i know that changing my attitude can really bring positive outcomes in my life. but i am unable to change… Still with this site i have identified myself. Hope that will help me somehow. thanks.

  22. 35 Eva 17 Aug 2014 at 5:34 pm

    Could it be that I have this feature because of my sense of unfairness? Because my childhood was basically built around school and I always had very high grades, I felt this wasn’t fair so I didn’t show myself, but now it helps to praise others. Or do I describe a different phenomenon?

    • 36 barry 18 Aug 2014 at 9:35 am

      Hi Eva.

      It sounds like you have humility, but I’m not clear if it’s excessive and damaging, either now or in the past.
      So I just want to check a couple of points if that’s OK:

      1. Your sense of unfairness.
      — Do you think this is something you were naturally born with, and are comfortable with?
      — Or was it something drilled into you by parents/siblings/other kids etc that left you in fear of being seen as smarter than average (“Who do you think you are, smarty-pants?” That kind of thing.)
      — Do you still feel it is “unfair” if ANY child gets higher grades than another? Or has that feeling only ever applied to you?

      2. You didn’t “show yourself”.
      — Does that mean you deliberately stopped performing well at school so as to avoid the discomfort of being seen to get top grades?
      — In later life, have you continued to hide yourself – or at least hide away any attention-catching aspects of yourself (e.g., underlying talents, personal feelings, eccentricities)?

      cheers

      Barry

    • 37 Eva 20 Aug 2014 at 4:20 pm

      I think it was drilled in me, but it feels more like a lesson I need to learn and I remain getting high grades and now I am getting more comfortable with it. I can now use my intelligence to help my classmates. I think it was a lesson in not worrying about what other people think about me, because I usually act different, for example being alone rather than being with others and loving learning for the sake of learning.

  23. 38 Chrissie 20 Aug 2014 at 8:01 pm

    After a lifelong battle with anxiety and depression, one might think this concept would have been brought up in therapy sometime during the past 44 years but somehow I’ve managed to avoid the obvious all this time. This IS truly the basis of my issues and has led to all kinds of other stuff that has resulted in many traumatic events in my life and the constant/overwhelming threat of suicide to make the pain stop.

    I’m going to pursue this further, and will start by reading this book. It sounds like it’s the right path to follow right now.

    I’m outwardly outgoing, I often take the lead in social and work situations and I’m highly intelligent but Im plagued with self depreciation and self doubt to the nth degree. I have been in positions of leadership but don’t expect respect and therefore never get it. I’m always on the outside because I’m afraid of getting hurt. I hold myself down because I don’t want others to hold be down. I feel like I’m a big fake and everyone is going to figure me out eventually. I apologize for having thoughts, opinions and plans, even when they benefit the other party. I dread asking for people’s time or efforts and once again, I rarely get these from others. I do not accept compliments as real and often dismiss praise immediately yet I dwell on any small criticisms for extended periods of time. (Although rarely receive negative feedback because I’m convinced that I have to provide a superhuman effort in order to meet others expectations) I never went to college and despite a high level of knowledge in my field and a somewhat revolutionary way of approaching things, I have achieved mediocre success in my career and I have very few friends. I’ve got lots of ideas but I rarely follow through on them because well, I don’t think I deserve to achieve my goals. I’m plagued with anxiety that my colleagues will figure out that I’m nuts and I’m afraid to stand up to my superiors with confidence, especially when I know my idea is not something they are ready to hear. I avoid friendships because I’m afraid people will find out that I’m not “normal” and I’m plagued with worry that my husband of twelve years will get sick of dealing with me and leave me.

    My kids are amazing but I fear they will be like me so I’m constantly torn between wanting them near me and putting up a barrier between us for their own good.

    I hate myself for being me, for being here, for taking up space, for not being able to get it together and just be “like everyone else.” Sometimes I pray that my heart will just stop beating because I don’t deserve to bother the world with my presence. But then I think of my kids and I just pray that I won’t hurt my kids with my issues. Sometimes I pray that God would take me out of this world and make it like I was never here in the first place. (Irrational, I know) In my mind, I am the exception to the rule that “God doesn’t make mistakes.” Happiness is not something I deserve. I am an outsider, I don’t belong.

    This is so ingrained in me yet on paper, I “shouldn’t” feel this way. I’m an ethical, somewhat attractive, intelligent person and a hard worker so why DON’T I DESERVE a good life?

    When I think about it that way, I just find another reason to attack myself. “What’s WRONG with you?? You’ve got NO RIGHT to feel this way, you’ve had plenty of opportunities to get your life straight. Quit making it all about you. You are so selfish, no wonder nobody likes you.” After a while, you just stop talking out loud about this stuff and you accept that you are just one of the many cursed people out there who maybe, at some point, a long time ago, were foolish enough to believe that you were somehow special or worthy. You will then say in your head, “you’re not like everyone else. That’s just not you. Don’t expect anything. Who did you think you were? Stupid.” Over and over again, hoping to finally stop fighting it and accept your fate on every level. But if I truly accepted it, it wouldn’t hurt as much as it does.

    I think the human spirit must be more resilient than I give it credit for. It keeps fighting to break free of this bondage. Sounds crazy to those who haven’t experienced the debilitating and devastating effects of this disorder but it’s all too real, unfortunately. It sounds like complete self absorption – believe me, as a Christian woman I’m plagued with guilt and shame about that too. My faith wavers because I don’t know how to pull myself out of this pit and the disorder tells me that I don’t even deserve a good relationship with God, so how can I possibly expect Him to help me? So I even hide from God, because He must be so ashamed of me. But if (In my eyes) I don’t deserve God’s help, if therapists shouldn’t really care about me and if I don’t have what it takes to help myself, how do I break this cycle?

    As I see it, there are only two ways out and one of them is not an option for me. I guess I might start by giving this curse a name and figuring out where it started in the first place. As much as I would often like to “give up,” I guess I’m not quite ready to throw in the towel just yet, despite the voices in my head that are saying, even now, “you aren’t that interesting, don’t bother with this little self study.” Otherwise I wouldn’t have done the search for “social anxiety” which eventually brought me to this link.

    Maybe after reading this book, I’ll be able to change a FEW patterns and I’ll get a small reprieve from all the negative self talk. It’s worth a shot.

    Thank you for writing it.

    • 39 barry 22 Aug 2014 at 2:18 pm

      Well Chrissie, thank YOU for that vivid first-hand description of extremely negative self-deprecation and the vicious circle of self-criticism and self-inhibition that it creates. Clearly, the bits of your mind that are involved in perpetuating this have got you “stitched up like a kipper” (as we say in these parts).

      I don’t know if you’ve trawled through all the older comments here (they are big and plentiful!), but I’ve given various suggestions over time, which I can quickly summarise here. …Come to think of it, I really should compile them into a FAQ or Q&A to add to the bottom of the article itself.

      Anyway, before I do that, I have a number of thoughts plus some short videos to recommend.

      First: Your self-perception is very, very stuck in the negative. (I doubt that’s news to you.) Now, any thing, person or situation can be viewed in two ways, (1) by focusing on its positive aspects or (2) by focusing on its negative aspects. It’s quite easy for us to do this. We can look at a glass of water and see the upside (“glass half full”), and then looking at it again we can see the downside (“glass half empty”). Notice that both views SEE the same thing objectively – a glass, and the amount of water in it. It’s merely a JUDGEMENT, following the perception, that frames it as either positive or negative. The positive/negative judgement isn’t “the truth” or “an objective fact.” It’s just something our minds project – usually out of blind habit. We forget that we can switch from one way of viewing (negative focus) to another (positive focus).

      What psychologists have recently found is that the order in which we do this matters.

      If we start by taking a positive view of things, it’s very easy for us to then ditch that and slide down to the negative view. But if we start with the negative view, our minds really struggle to then rise up to the positive view. It’s like trying to climb a greasy pole.

      Our minds really do get “stuck” in the downside, in negative ways of perceiving and thinking. It’s like negativity has a gravitational pull which we can barely resist. In fact, the only way to resist the lure of negativity is by making a real, conscious effort to see things in a positive light – much like a rocket has to use a big amount of energy to escape Earth’s gravity.

      It strikes me that you have been anticipating others’ possible negative judgements of you to such an extent that their imagined voice has replaced your own inner voice. What you think to yourself while your mind is ticking over is whatever negativity you can think of that others might say to you, or even just think about you.

      We are biologically programmed to fight or flee or freeze in the face of threats. Mentally, you are continually presenting yourself with threats, and that is debilitating because the fight/flight/freeze response overrides your ability to act any other way. It’s as if you have locked yourself in the prison of your own thoughts.

      The thing is, the key is still in your hands.

      On that note…

      Essential Viewing

      Do you know about TED talks? (Everybody should!) It’s an event where the world’s greatest thinkers, leaders and doers give the speech of their lives to try to change the world. I have selected some that I think will (hopefully) speak to you, one way or another.

      Here’s a great start. This guy talking – unexpectedly – on “The Prison of Your Mind” is inspiring, challenging, and very, very funny. I have written down half of his talk to quote it at other people!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaRO5-V1uK0

      In “Meet Yourself: A User’s Guide to Building Self-Esteem”, Niko Everett explains that we can build self-esteem and self-confidence by controlling negative thoughts and amplifying positive ones. She shares some simple, practical techniques.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOrzmFUJtrs

      This 10 minute talk, “Getting Stuck In The Negatives” by social psychologist Alison Ledgerwood, gives a great overview of how our minds get stuck in negative thoughts.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XFLTDQ4JMk

      Two of the very best and most watched TED talks are by Brené Brown, a wonderful psychologist who studies our inner demons such as vulnerability and shame. In the first, she shares a deep insight from her research, one that sent her on a personal quest to know herself as well as to understand humanity.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCvmsMzlF7o

      In the second, she delves into shame – again, with great insight, compassion and inspiration.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0ifUM1DYKg

      And finally, just for sheer glorious life-affirming inspiration:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX32U_hfri4

    • 40 Patricia 28 Sep 2014 at 1:21 am

      I’m Grateful for these suggestions, and appreciate your generosity in sharing your work Barry. Wishing you every blessing 🙂 P

    • 41 Patricia 28 Sep 2014 at 1:00 am

      Hey Chrissie ,,you’re not alone…did the book help? I’d like to know since you have described a lot of what I do. In case this is of help, I am currently in a support group which is called STEPPS…strategic therapy for emotional predictability and problem solving…it has increased my awareness about how I think negatively, and how I am triggered, due to distorted cognitive filters, which were learned. We learn methods to manage our emotional intensity, and that isn’t just anger by the way, it’s any emotion that goes too intense like sadness…Another angle I’m pursuing, which might be helpful to you too, is Addiction to Perfection, by Marion Woodman. It dispels some of the myths we have about what God intended for humans. I wish you well. P

    • 42 Tracey 02 Apr 2015 at 3:37 pm

      Praying you are well.
      Relating deeply as sever agoraphobia and other serious effects have taken their toll in and over my life because of this. Makes me want to reach out to others but then, well, you know…
      My children are 23, 19 & 16…
      I understand COMPLETELY what you were saying. God Blessed Them to have mothers who will be there and help them SEE themselves should this take root in their lives. God Bless You and Make His Face SHINE upon you.

    • 43 J 22 Jul 2015 at 10:41 am

      I could’ve written your response precisely as you did, but it would be me describing me. I’m a listener and have heard others say similar things about themselves. Seems many are stuck in this struggle of esteeming ourselves less and others more than ourselves.

  24. 44 Jordan 25 Aug 2014 at 7:32 pm

    Wow, this was actually pretty scary to read. So much of this rang true for myself. I’m so glad I found this site. For one, I think I need therapy. 2, I don’t know how to go about that.

    • 45 barry 25 Aug 2014 at 10:36 pm

      Hi – they (therapists) usually advertise themselves in local magazines. And there’s always Google. Unless of course you were joking, in which case forget what I just said 🙂
      B

  25. 46 Sham 27 Mar 2015 at 3:32 pm

    Is Jesus your messiah?

  26. 47 Laura 21 Apr 2015 at 3:22 am

    Can all of this be situational? Can our dark tendencies be made worst by difficult circumstances? I wish there was a “one size fits all” attitude of self confidence, regardless of whether you are in a happy or difficult period in life. I try to support myself by thinking I am only this low because of all of the problems I’m having right now (job relocation, have to sell a house and move, elderly parent with Alzheimers, empty nest) and that when things improve I will be a happier person. My husband counters this by saying everyone has problems all the time, but come on, I really do have a lot on my plate right now.

    • 48 barry 22 Apr 2015 at 9:43 am

      Yes, situations exacerbate our negative states and traits. But there’s a complex interaction between states/traits and the situations we experience.

      On a purely psychological level, our dark tendencies affect our behaviour and our behaviour affects what sort of situations we then experience. For example, a person who is in a depressed state or who has a depressive personality trait will be relatively inactive, pessimistic and solitary. As a result, they won’t be imagining, pursuing and creating opportunities for happiness as often as someone who is in a more positive state, or has a more positive outlook.

      But getting out of a negative place and into a positive place is not easy — it’s much easier to go from a positive place to a negative place. It requires a deliberate choice and commitment. For more on this, see the “Getting stuck in the negatives” TED video (in a comment above – or here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XFLTDQ4JMk).

      Your husband sounds like he may have a Stoical attitude, or alternatively perhaps he is just staying out of touch with his own negative feelings and therefore resists you expressing yours.

  27. 49 peonybloomer 23 Apr 2015 at 1:05 pm

    Thanks for this informative article. Well written and speaks a lot of truth.

    It’s a horrible feeling that is only gets worse. I had a good upbringing.
    Even so, I self-deprecate myself. Since I am a perfectionist, I often criticize small things, mainly social situations (pretty much the only thing I am very bad at are social situations, for different reasons), that I do. I don’t criticize other people, however. To make up for what I call “failures”, I turn my productive levels on maximum. I work harder than before, trying to forget the criticism, the embarrassments. I withdraw, don’t like being around other people.

    Of course this has lead me to become quite skilled in what I do, but at the same time it gnaws at my soul. Every single day my mind reminds me of the mistakes I’ve done, and from the perspective of others, these would be very trivial mistakes. I try to quell them, but it is very difficult thing to do. The only relief is when I am buried deep in hours of work/art, or playing games or going outside. Going outside does make it better, but as soon as I am home, the feeling of being eaten is back again until I do more work and let my mind put a hold on it.

    Well, I hope for the best for all who are in a similar situation and someday eventually gain the power to release themselves from the cage. Good to have pages like this to help us identify and work towards bettering ourselves. It doesn’t have to be like this.

  28. 50 tim 25 Apr 2015 at 11:10 pm

    Been self-depricating for as long as I have know what the word meant and probably even longer but always thought it was a good thing almost as good as humility and I have a loathing for prideful and arrogant people, but thanks be to God for me having the ability to afford a phone that allows me to Google, as do not have the funds or knowledge to afford and operate a computer, now realize this is more of a character FLAW than a humble trait. Now 50, my cousin ,whom l adore, has asked me what happened to that adorable fun loving child who now, (in my mind is just a humble human being)is a bitter, unhappy, borderline angry at the world, old fart. So thanks for your article/definition it makes me realize I need help. THANK YOU! 🙂

    • 51 barry 26 Apr 2015 at 12:03 pm

      Not sure if I should say “you’re very welcome” or “I’m sorry about that” 🙂
      Thanks Tim
      B

  29. 52 Jessica 22 Jun 2015 at 7:12 am

    I have been through 2 failed marriages both very different an both exes had there own ways of making me feel inadequate both were abusive in some way now that I am married for the third time and to a very wonderful man who I never feel I deserve I always feel like he can do so much better than me, I always tells me and everyone else what a wonderful wife I am and that he is very lucky to have me but I just tell him he can do better. I have always said I was just humble but now I think it is more than that

  30. 53 pervypirate 22 Jun 2015 at 9:05 am

    I read somewhere that Old Souls often choose this Chief Feature, anyone have an idea as to why?

    • 54 barry 27 Jul 2015 at 10:26 am

      I guess because it’s more to do with “why am I here?” and also the least likely to cause any harm (karma) to others.

  31. 55 Jin 04 Jul 2015 at 3:53 pm

    This post actually made me cry. I feel so hopelessly trapped in this cycle. Its overwhelming

    • 56 barry 04 Jul 2015 at 6:15 pm

      Cry. Crying can be healing.

  32. 57 Robi 05 Jul 2015 at 12:54 pm

    The internal mantra “I am safe” helps defuse this energy.
    As does remembering that each life cycle comes with its own lessons.
    An education brings much insight and encouragement; Ageless Wisdom is given in limitless forms. See: The Michael Teachings, Alice A Bailey, etc.
    A psychologist takes one to a certain point, then one must dig deeper on their own. Each will find what is right for him/her. And, yes, parts of the Path are with great struggle as well as great reward.
    Self-dep remains part of my make up, yet it rarely rarely over powers me at this stage due to the inner work done as a result of pursuing an Ageless Wisdom education.
    In companionship ….

  33. 58 Liz 10 Jul 2015 at 5:36 pm

    This makes so much sense to me…..for my whole life I’ve been wondering what’s wrong with me, why I can never manage to do any of the things in life that I know I want. I’ve always had issues holding on to relationships….I’ve had so many guys tell me how annoying i am because I subtly put myself down constantly. I always just called myself a worrier, but I knew that that description was never adequate, nobody would understand how I actually feel about myself, and that my whole perception of the world had to be different from that of the average joe. I am 18 years old and I feel about forty. I grew up in a house of hoarders who never wanted to take responsibility for their own messes, and younger siblings who I took care of and cleaned up after the best I could. My parents were too lazy to get real jobs so they scrapped metal for pot money and lived off the state for the rest, and I had to help with that too. If I messed up, I got called a lazy brat and a retard. Every day at a young age I tried my hardest to make them happy and achieve clean house, which both proved impossible. As an adult, I know that the messed up way I grew up is the root of my issues, which are socially crippling to me, but I can never manage to relax or just believe for once that I’m worth more than an afterthought. I try to tell myself that my fears and doubts are irrational and to just get over it, stop thinking all the time and just chill and be happy for once! But I found that I don’t know how to do that. All I want is to feel like I’m not an outcast. To live my life and not care so much. I just want to know what it’s like to be truly internally happy with myself but I feel like I’m the biggest screwup that was ever born, and nobody should waste their time caring about me because there’s nothing there anyway. Should I seek help or is there an easier way to overcome these things?

  34. 59 abhijeet 16 Jul 2015 at 3:06 am

    I feel I am not good enough & whatever I Will

    Do will be wrong & can’t understand on first time

  35. 60 Ally 27 Jul 2015 at 3:00 am

    Hello hello!
    My biggest fear is inadequacy, and I think my chief trait is self depreciation (not sure! Like you said, it’s hard to tell). But instead of belittling myself and my work to others, I only ever belittle myself to myself, if that makes sense… So I’m always telling myself that people will scrutinize my work or how I look or my personality, but instead of giving up or not trying, I’m kind of a perfectionist, because I want my peers to see me as creative, smart, and bubbly. I also don’t really ever say the phrases in the misconceptions section… My thoughts are more like “if I weren’t so shy, then people would see the real me” or “I need this essay to be fantastic or people won’t think I’m smart enough” or “I have to look my best or nobody will like me or take me seriously”… Like if I’m good at something and care about it, I need to be really good at it before I show it to anyone, but I really like showing off work I’m proud of and I really like teaching things I’m interested in to other people. I like giving my opinion when I think it’s a good one, but if I don’t think I could add anything to a conversation, I don’t, because I can’t really handle people seeing any of my flaws. I really really care what people think of me, but instead of hiding myself away, I hide behind a face… I have a really hard time in social situations because I don’t want people to see through it…

    I read the section on arrogance and parts of it reign true for me, while the rest feel like the opposite of me… I wont let people see my innermost vulnerablities, (which is why I have my voice of self-depreciation and my perfectionist qualities) but I love poking fun at things I’m bad at: like singing or push-ups. I would never belittle anyone. Ever. But the childhood of arrogance hits home.

    Is it possible to have self depreciation as my primary and arrogance as my secondary (or vice versa) even if they’re opposites? Or do I have my traits wrong? Please help!

  36. 61 Sue Best 24 Oct 2015 at 3:31 pm

    How can l help someone who has thus condition?

  37. 62 Bob 26 Oct 2015 at 5:33 pm

    I read this article and it all rang true. I’ve always felt as though I was different from everyone else and rarely feel at ease in social situations. After some thinking (I do a lot of that) I came to the conclusion that it was due to being bullied pretty heavily throughout school and being depressed and borderline suicidal. I think being constantly told that I was inadequate has had an impact on me.

    I’m in university now and I have quite a few friends but I’ve always struggled to find relationships or connect with people on a deep level. I think this is due to always having my guard up, and like the article said, trying to stop people criticising me. I always feel like I am flying under the radar and never saying anything that might offend someone in case they might say something back to me.

    I have recently been looking into meditation and self esteem. I feel as though if you are suffering with this as I am, meditation will help you greatly. It will help you get in touch with reality as it has done for me. It helps you to let go of the story with which your ego is associated and built up through your life conditioning; experiences, relationships etc. And it helps you to let things go and become again as a child who sees the world through untainted eyes.

    I am still only a couple of days into meditation so I still have a long way to go but it has already started to benefit me so I thought as I was on this site I would recommend it and hopefully help other like minded people. —Sorry for rambling on—- I just wrote that and caught myself, apologising again!!

    Anyway give it a try and best of luck for the future!
    P.S: I highly recommend watching this eckhart tolle video, it will help you!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VauHIuyPwkM

    • 63 barry 27 Oct 2015 at 1:00 pm

      Great, thanks Bob – and I fully agree about meditation; it enables you to gradually dis-identify from the false narrative. Also I would highly recommend enlightenment Intensives for a high powered process of dis-identification towards authentic self-realisation.

  38. 64 Shari 28 Oct 2015 at 1:58 pm

    I have been in two relationships with self depricators. In both instances they did it to get positive attention from me. I feel I have to say “Oh no, you’re not a bad person”. From my observations I agree with the article, but I notice that this behavior of “self deprecating to gain positive comments” not been mentioned. Being with the self depricator can be exhausting, because I am constantly put into the corner of needing to give them praise, and if I don’t, I then feed I to their feeling of worthlessness.

  39. 65 Claire-Kate 27 Dec 2015 at 9:14 pm

    I’m just now realizing that this is almost a perfect description of my personality. I’ve always been this way, yet reading this makes me think, “oh, wow… this is a bad thing? I thought that was normal.”

    Quite simply, I just really don’t see myself as anything special. If people try to compliment me on “talents” I have (if you can even call them that) such as being able to play the piano, or allegedly being able to draw well, I have to just force myself to smile and thank them. I actually used to lecture people and give them a list of reaons on why they are wrong, because I simply can’t stand the feeling of being lied to or told something out of pity. And if they denied that, I would begin arguing with them, trying to get them to see I am obviously a really pathetic person.

    Even being asked out or flirted with makes me excruciatingly uncomfortable, because I cannot see why they would do so. Several times, I’ve kind of repelled people by stuttering out questions, asking them why they would ever want to date me. Did someone ask them to do this? Or maybe they’ve mistaken me for someone else. Maybe they associated certain behaviors with the wrong person. It seems probable to me…

    It’s actually sort of a running gag among my friends that 90% of my humor is self-deprecating, and that the only way I will know how to console you is to tell you to compare yourself to me. You’ll seem a lot better by comparison, and that’s worth something, right?

    I used to arrouse quite a bit of concern from family and friends, because my tactics of self-deprecation would sometimes border of violent. When met with failure, I occassionally would state things like, “A useless person like me should just die already, if they can’t even perform a simple task.” I also highly doubt my attempts at diffusing the previous statements helped when I would follow them up with things like, “I’m just kidding! Other people have much sadder lives than me, so I’m not even worthy of killing myself! I don’t deserve suicide, so it’s okay – nothing will happen!”

    As to where this behavior comes from, I would guess possibly from results of mental illness. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at about 7 years old, and then later with Tourette Syndrome at around 15. Because of this, I had severe issues socializing with people due to anxiety, and was frequently teased for my socially-awkward behavior. There’s also the factor that people often avoided me in highschool, because quite a few of them were probably a little afraid of me or just weirded out in general, due to the fact that I would occassionally have panic attacks where I would pretty much just shut down and cry. I couldn’t help if it was in a public or crowded place, and a randomly hyperventalating, crying girl typically isn’t the most comfotrable thing to most people.

    Currently, I am in my junior year of college, and would like to improve this little flaw of mine before I end up an insecure and anti-social individual for life, but it’s been really difficult. I’ve unsuccessfully tried a few times to fix myself, yet it usually results in failure, and I’ll revert right back to my usual self. Although I’m typically not surprised, because I expected myself to fail from the start…

  40. 66 Doc Martini 03 Jan 2016 at 4:02 am

    One thing I see unexamined often in posts across many sites that deal with the psychology and personality is this: the self-depricating individual who is neither humble or arrogant but, due to the deep-seated resentments they have as a result of constant negative feedback as children becomes “over the top”. The people-pleasers. Those who become the life of the party, not by devaluing themselves more, but by attention seeking via extraordinary means to get a ” laugh”, sometimes at the expense of others. They are often identified by others as veering into the self-righteous spectrum, which seems counterintuitive to the definition of deprication overall. Too often, the self-loather is characterized as an introvert who would rather hide than have someone notice them. There are self-loathing individuals who are extroverts, who purposely inject themselves into conversations and situations in order to attempt to “feel better” about themselves. Why the psycho-social community ignores these people in their observances on this topic seem strange to some degree. Is the goal not to help those who self-depricate to be able to identify; and if so, why are all the possible responses to these negative thought processes not being addressed? Your thoughts are welcome.

    • 67 barry 07 Jan 2016 at 1:42 pm

      I do agree with you, and it’s something I intend to address soon by adding to the main text.

      All of the chief features (character flaws) can manifest in different ways according to the rest of the individual’s character. In particular, “centering” comes into play. Some people are feeling-centered (emotional, sensitive), some are thinking-centered (intellectual, verbal), some are moving-centered (dynamic, active, energetic). Wen it comes to Self-Deprecation we can see these three sub-types:

      – Emotional self-deprecation: Feeling-centered people are less interactive than the rest; life isn’t something they DO, so much as it’s what happens TO them and AFFECTS them. With self-deprecation, such people tend to be shy, silent, self-hiding wallflowers. They try to disappear from view so as not to attract attention, which they FEEL is bound to be negative due to their supposed obvious inadequacy.

      – Intellectual self-deprecation: Thinking-centered people have an active rational mind and tend to be very interactive verbally. Life isn’t simply what happens but neither it it something they DO exactly. Instead, life is something they constantly negotiate and make sense of through dialogue with others. With self-deprecation, such people tend to be openly agreeable – in fact hyper-agreeable – as a way to stay in “the conversation” despite their sense of inadequacy. The thing they most want to avoid is others’ expressions of negative judgement and criticalness, so they work hard at maintaining a veneer of likability. It’s a bit like ingratiation, the negative pole of the goal of Acceptance. These are the people-pleasers.

      – Physical self-deprecation: Moving-centered people have a kinetic way of being – life is a process of DOING, making things happen by always being on the move. With self-deprecation, such people actively strive for perfection as a cover-up for their supposed inadequacy. In other words, they over-compensate by trying to demonstrate extreme competence at everything – working through the night, over-delivering on projects, hoping that “results speak for themselves” and that their great results will distract attention from their own inabilities.

      I’ll copy the above into the main text at some point. There’s a lot more to be said on these, not just for self-deprecation but all the other negative features as well, and I feel quite inspired to do so, so thanks.

  41. 68 Cris 29 Jan 2016 at 2:07 am

    I find myself in some of these descriptions, but not all. For me, the greatest problem is fear: fear that they will see that i am not as good as i should be; fear that they will discover or think that i am just a child (i am 37 but until very recently when i am in public i felt like a child); fear that they will see that i can’t/don’t know how to interact with them and that i am weird (and i really can’t interact with them in smalltalk, since i find these subjects so absolutely uninteresting and alientaing from true substance and true communication); fear that they will never respect or listen to me; fear that once they see i am weak they will attack me.
    Of course childhood can be blamed for this paralysing fear. But what i would like to know is if there are any strategies of breaking free from this fear, of breaking the wall. Now i rationally see this as a parasite feeling, like a phobia of needles (i have that too lol), something you can’t control and strikes in when the stimuli are there. Lately i’ve been trying to act as if i don’t see how they perceive me or to accept their perception as rightful. I am werid and a social freak, as I’ve been told. I am trying to force myself to participate in small talk and even to speak in a group without being asked. If i didn’t have this fear, i know that i could do all these normally. I think i need recognition and maybe a job with authority, so that i can see that peolpe can respect and listen to me.
    Anyway, if you have any suggestions on how to overcome this, please share.

  42. 69 SomeRandomAnimeFan 28 Apr 2016 at 12:37 am

    Well, to start things off, my traumatic experience was my dad committing suicide two years ago when I was 13. In the middle of a very sad divorce between him and my mother. Needless to say, it sent shockwaves through me. From then on out, things went downhill, especially with the relationship between me and my mother. She was a hypocrite, and constantly left the house to go on trips with her boyfriend she got together with after divorcing Dad. She didn’t care about my sister and me, and when she actually noticed our existences, she would demand that we respect her more and that she’s the best thing since sliced bread, making awful assumptions that are ALWAYS wrong yet she constantly thinks they’re fact. Now these days, we don’t even talk unless she tells me to do chores. That’s it. And from that, I just felt like my own mother wishes I was gone so that she could be by herself with her boyfriend with no interruptions. So, if my dad just decided to straight up ABANDON me and my family, and if my own MOTHER doesn’t even pretend to care about me half of the time, how can anyone else love me? I just ask myself, why WOULD anyone like me? Sure, I’m pretty nice and I try to be an optimist and I like to talk and share stories, but it’s not enough to keep anyone for lifetime when all I can think to myself is, “They’re just going to leave me, so what’s the point?”

    So, you can also kinda begin to see my views about love. I just don’t think it’s out there. At least, not for me. Every relationship has to come to an end, there’s no question to it. Even if I come across the happiest couple who lived together for who-knows-how-long, I still say to myself, “It’s going to end. It ALWAYS ends.” This does stem more from the divorce rather than my mother, but it’s still there. My cynicism on love just goes through the roof sometimes. I mean, I’d love to have a relationship, but what’s the point if we’ll just break up and the experience will leave me to move on all over again? The very thought of that just makes me want to disappear and move on to another life where these problems don’t exist.

    Now these days, I can’t see a whole lot of good in myself. I have had multiple people compliment me and say that I’m pretty, but I always brush it off and think that they’re not serious or that they’re just being WAY too polite. I love drawing, and while I am decent at it, whenever a friend of mine gushes over my work, I IMMEDIATELY point out a million small flaws in it. When I write and my TEACHER gushes over my work, I just look at my words and think they’re stupid and childish. I freak out over one dumb error.

    I don’t know, it’s not like I can really talk to anyone about it because they’ll just brush it off as ‘teenage hormones’. I just feel like it’s more than that, you know? Sometimes I even question if my counselor takes me seriously. I just feel isolated from the people around me when I feel like this, and I even doubt myself plenty of times, always worrying that it’s just something stupid. Any advice? It’s not like I can really leave the house, seeing as I’m under 18…


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