Reincarnation: the 35 steps of soul evolution

35 Steps

According to many spiritual teachers, all human beings are, in reality, spiritual beings on a human journey. We reincarnate as human beings in order to evolve as souls.

Our ultimate aim is to become fully conscious and capable as unique individual expressions of All That Is.

It is a long journey, but that’s okay because the soul is eternal.

Soul Evolution

The soul’s journey is really a process of evolving. This means growing in consciousness, steadily progressing through different levels or stages of consciousness.

How do we grow in consciousness? Through taking on challenging experiences in physical form. These cause us to make important, “soul-searching” choices and call upon us to discover our inner resources.

But why in physical form? Why would a perfectly happy spiritual being decide to inhabit the physical realm with all of its limitations and difficulties?

It is precisely so that we can experience the state of what feels like total separation from others and from the rest of reality. Only by going into this physically separated human form can we know ourselves as beings in our own right, and not just as … well … undifferentiated blobs of energy. Being physical throws our experiences and choices into extremely sharp relief in a way that is not possible otherwise. This is how we learn who we are and how to become all that we are.

In other words:

Choice and the ramifications of choice provide the essential lessons of life. In a very real sense, you choose to be here in order to make choices.

Messages from Michael

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The 35 Steps

We are here to know ourselves and be all we can be, step by step. And according to the teachings of the entity known as Michael, there are 35 steps to the reincarnational process. The body and personality you have now are merely the vehicles you have chosen for this latest step in your journey.

But why 35 steps? Why not 36 steps? Or 10? Or 100?

It is simply because, according to Michael, we go through five major stages of evolution through reincarnation. And, within each stage there are seven increments or levels to be completed. (Yes, it is rather like a computer game.)

5 x 7 = 35.

35 steps

Each single step requires a whole lifetime to complete. In fact, each step usually requires more than one lifetime. Typically, the entire journey of 35 steps takes well over a hundred lifetimes.

So let’s look at the journey in more detail. We’ll start with the five major stages of soul evolution through reincarnation.

The Five Stages

The Michael teachings describe a sequence of five “cycles” or stages of soul evolution. They are named after the stages of human development:

Each of these five corresponds to a specific level of development in capability and self-awareness within the individual soul. As the soul goes through each stage, the focus changes, more experience is gained, and consciousness expands.

Michael Newton

Incidentally, the same pattern of soul evolution has been identified by the hypnotherapist Michael Newton (right). His groundbreaking research was published in the best-selling book Journey of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives (Llewellyn, 1994).

The books by Newton and his students draw upon thousands of transcripts of people who, under hypnotic regression, have re-experienced being between lives. From the higher perspective of their soul they are able to explain what happens after death and before birth. This includes information about the levels of consciousness through which reincarnating souls evolve.

What Newton and others have discovered is that souls between lives exist in light-form, and that each soul emanates a particular colour of the spectrum which indicates its current level of consciousness.

The spectrum begins at white (all colours) but then goes through red, yellow, green, blue, to deep purple and violet. From low frequency to high frequency. The least evolved souls — the “newbies” — have a pinkish hue. The oldest souls — those nearing the end of the whole reincarnational cycle — have a blueish hue.

Although the spectrum is a continuum, Dr. Newton has found that it can be divided into five distinct stages or levels of evolvement, from Level I to Level V. These can be mapped onto the five stages given in the Michael teachings, from Infant soul to Old soul.

So, for example, souls in the middle (or third) stage of reincarnation are referred to as “Young souls” in the Michael teachings and they are at what Newton would call “Level III”. They will have a yellowish or golden hue.

(As an aside, both Newton and the Michael entity also identify higher levels of soul evolution which do not involve reincarnation.)

The stages of reincarnation (or soul age) can also be likened to the stages of metamorphosis we see in nature, such as egg, caterpillar, chrysalis, butterfly. In reincarnation, though, what changes is not the physical form but the mode of consciousness, especially the form of self-awareness and — as a result — the way of relating to others.

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Soul age characteristics

Soul age affects how an individual lives, thinks, acts, and comes across to others.

Stage 1 — Infant Souls

Infant souls focus on immediate survival needs. They flourish in simple environments close to nature, such as remote tribes or rural, pastoral settings.

In the context of modern society, however, they can come across as uncivilised simpletons or yokels, and may even be deemed to be psychopathic or have some sort of developmental disorder.

Psychologically, infant souls are naive, impulsive and “pre-conventional”, acting on impulse or habit with little or no thought for consequences.

Because they lack both social understanding and self-inhibition, they are capable of committing antisocial or immoral acts without any sense of wrongdoing. As such, they do not fit well within modern society and may end up in prison or in psychiatric units.

While they may lack the moral principles, social graces and cultural understanding of older souls, Infant souls are in a sense completely innocent, being without pretense or agenda.

Stage 2 — Baby Souls

In contrast to Infant souls, Baby souls think a great deal about the rights and wrongs of their actions. Their lives are about safety, security, structure and order — rigidly so. They like to live in communities that are highly principled and “civilized” (think of the Amish).

Baby souls come across to older souls as rather “square” – strictly conventional and conformist. Both their beliefs and their actions are largely rule-bound, so they are often ultra-conservative, traditionalist, orthodox, upright, moralistic, religiously devout, and mindful of law and order.

That said, they will occasionally give in to temptation, or temper tantrum, and break the rules themselves — but then might find themselves tortured with guilt and shame.

They are acutely aware of the rights and wrongs of people’s actions, including their own, though they have little insight into the motives behind them. Bad behaviour is sinful, and that’s that.

Stage 3 — Young Souls

Young souls tend to be extravert, outward-bound, worldly, frenetically energetic, brash, competitive, political, ambitious and individualistic. Life at this stage is about thinking for oneself and asserting oneself as an individual.

Young souls are more ego-driven than others, keen to make their mark in the world. They are generally attracted to some form of worldly success — fame, fortune, power, glory. In fact, they are more fearful of death than souls at other stages, and those who aren’t sure about life after death may be anxious to make a big impact on the world stage, to create some kind of symbolic immortality for themselves.

Young souls cling to their own opinions, with a certainty that their own perspective is the right perspective, and their way ahead is by far the best way. They are very aware of their own agenda but do not really question it.

Stage 4 Mature souls

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Mature souls tend to be more reflective than younger souls, with a growing understanding of self, growing empathy for others, and a desire for authenticity in both. Life is less about proving oneself, and more about exploring “right relationship”.

Mature soul consciousness is no longer egocentric, in the sense of being limited to one’s own perspective and agenda, but is capable of accommodating multiple perspectives and different agendas. In fact, there is now a tension between “what I want” and “appreciating what you want,” or between the personal and the interpersonal.

This makes life much more complicated — sometimes overwhelmingly so. On the one hand, mature souls reject narrow-minded values. Yet on the other hand, they are able to empathise with whoever holds those same values. Fixed opinions are replaced by a sense of ever-shifting perspectives — “It all depends on how you look at it”.

This disappearance of solid ground can be hugely stressful, but it kicks off a search for deeper meaning and self-understanding, whether through art, psychology, philosophy or spirituality.

Mature souls tend to question everything, including their own motives, and are prone to do a lot of soul-searching (literally).

Stage 5 — Old Souls

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Old souls tend to exude some degree of depth, gravitas or wisdom that is quite obvious. In children, it can be most striking (think: old head on young shoulders) For having moved beyond the stresses and conflicts of the Mature soul, Old souls have a growing sense of inner peace and freedom — the freedom to enjoy being very much in the world, but not of it.

Compared to younger souls they are relatively calm, measured, untroubled and stable, unattached to social structures and cultural expectations, being sure of their own existence and inner strengths and their compassion for others.

On the other hand, finding themselves in a world that is so conflicted, chaotic, frantic, and superficial can be utterly depressing.

For Old souls, the aim of life is to find true self-expression and fulfillment. As such, they tend to go their own unique way in life, letting go and letting be, in a detached way that may seem very weird and eccentric to younger souls.

Late-stage old souls find themselves consciously participating in the evolution of all-that-is, and often focus on teaching spiritual wisdom with great compassion.

Note: These descriptions emphasise the differences between stages. In reality, though, there is a gradual blend from one stage to the next. A person at the start of the Mature stage, for example, will act mostly like a Young soul but with elements of Mature soul nature beginning to emerge.

The lessons of each stage

Here are the five stages of soul evolution through human reincarnation, together with the typical learning experiences associated with each stage:

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So we begin reincarnating as Infant souls, complete novices at physical existence. At this first stage we are largely in a state of incompetence and terror, frankly. But through experiences and choices we learn and grow. We steadily progress from being Infant souls to Baby souls to Young souls to Mature souls. Finally, we enter the fifth stage as accomplished Old souls, the experts of human existence.

As infant souls we learned about choices having to do with survival, as baby souls choices having to do with moral codes and ethics, as young souls choices having to do with mastery of achievement, as mature souls choices having to do with relationships, and as old souls choices having to do with the nature of oneness with the Tao. An infant soul would therefore not understand the choices of an old soul although an older soul would likely have more understanding of the nature of younger soul choice having had them.

Michael, via Victoria Marina

To look at each stage in more detail see:

Stage 1. The Infant Soul

Stage 2. The Baby Soul

Stage 3. The Young Soul

Stage 4. The Mature Soul

Stage 5. The Old Soul

Soul levels in the human population

The six or seven billion people on the planet span the whole range of stages, but the average is said to be somewhere just past the mid-point of stage 3 (see chart below). In other words, this world is currently dominated by Young souls whose primary focus is competitive self-advancement.

The seven steps within each stage

Within each stage there are seven discrete steps to go through. In the Michael teachings, they are called “levels”, so in each stage we proceed from 1st level to 7th level. Calling these “levels” can be a bit confusing (since Newton refers to the five major stages as “levels”), so I sometimes prefer to call them “steps”.

So each stage of reincarnation has seven distinct learning steps. For example, we begin the whole journey at step 1 as Infant souls, learn that lesson, then undertake step 2 as Infant souls, and so on. On completing the 7th step of the Infant stage, we then begin the 1st step of the Baby stage.

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The early steps in any stage are about experiencing life at this new stage of evolution, learning the essential lessons through appropriate experiences.

The later steps are about expressing those lessons, demonstrating this level of consciousness in action.

For example, in the Young soul stage, the first three steps — from 1st level Young soul to 3rd level Young soul — are about discovering the meaning of free will and self-determination; the last three steps — 5th level Young soul to 7th level Young soul — are about demonstrating the meaning of free will and self-determination in action. (The middle step — 4th level Young soul — is about consolidating the lessons learned.)

The first step or level of any stage is like putting a toe in the water; the final step is like teaching others how to swim:

1st Level Initiation into the new stage. “Toe in the water.” First glimpses of the new consciousness. We come to recognise that there is a whole new way of being ahead of us, and we respond to the call, even though as yet it is beyond our comprehension.
2nd Level Building foundations. Wading in and out. Comparing and contrasting the old and new consciousness. We come to understand what is essential and different about this higher level, though it still remains ‘ahead’ of us, not quite within us.
3rd Level Rising to the challenge. Taking the plunge. We determinedly commit ourselves to actively embrace and explore the new consciousness.
4th Level Integration. Relaxing into it, “enjoying the water.” We now identify ourselves with this way of understanding self, life and others – this is our truth. We fully incorporate and consolidate the new consciousness into our own being.
5th Level Expression. Splashing about – “Look at me!” We openly share and communicate our new, true sense of self and of life’s meaning. We feel drawn to broadcast our truth, to “go public” with it.
6th Level Demonstration. Giving value and benefit to others. “Being a life guard.” Our new consciousness is put to the test. We also burn off any outstanding karma incurred in the earlier steps of this stage.
7th Level Mastery. Peak performance. We have complete understanding and control of our awareness at this level. We know exactly what we are doing. We may feel like a role model. Hmm… What’s next?

This sequence of seven steps is repeated through each stage, making 35 steps in all from the beginning of reincarnation to the end.

In case you’re wondering, I’m at the 5th level of the Mature soul stage. My current life’s lesson is about outwardly expressing my Mature soul consciousness.

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Many lives

So, we start our evolutionary journey at level 1 of stage I (as “1st Level Infant souls”) and end it at level 7 of stage 5 (as “7th Level Old souls”).

There are 35 steps in all. And each single step requires at least one lifetime to complete.

A single step can be done in one lifetime but often that’s too big a stretch, so an initial life may undertaken as a taster, followed by one or two more which really go for it.

Sometimes a life is interrupted, and the soul will just have to start over in the next life. Also, some lives are undertaken for reasons other than the specific intent to develop. For example, one lifetime might be undertaken primarily to assist another soul in their development. And some lives are taken on primarily for the death experience, for karmic reasons. These can be very short, of the order of days, weeks or months.

Taking into account all the gaps spent in the non-physical state between lives, a single step is typically accomplished in about 100-300 years of Earth time.

The whole journey of 35 steps usually takes well over 100 lifetimes. Hence, the whole journey is likely to take of the order of 7,000-8,000 years, but possibly a lot more if the population is low and opportunities to incarnate are few.

Questions and Answers

Coming back again and again sounds dreadful. Why don’t we just give up and be done with it? Can’t I just decide that this is my last time?

You cannot skip any of the steps, nor would you want to (from the soul’s perspective). You wouldn’t rent a movie but then skip to the final credits just to avoid the whole process of sitting through the movie. In fact, it’s more like a computer game. You are playing the game because you want to, and at some level you actually love it. And you know perfectly well that you need to master one level before you can move on to the next level. That’s what the game is all about.

Who says?

There’s no tyrannical deity controlling the game, forcing you to keep at it, deciding who gets to “graduate” and who doesn’t. It’s just the natural dynamic of life and the evolution of consciousness. A tadpole cannot suddenly transform into a full-grown frog. A baby human cannot suddenly take on a professional career or family responsibilities. There’s a natural, inevitable sequence to go through. And we’ve all signed up for it.

But why? What’s it all about?

Well, at the level of spirit or essence, all is one, all is love, all is joy. This is all very nice, but consciousness longs to experience more and more of what there is to experience, the utter richness and fullness of life.

How does it do that?

By fragmenting into zillions of conscious entities, each of whom has its own experiences and perspective, and each of whom can make its own choices about what to experience. Any soul can choose to continue being submerged in all-that-is, albeit with little sense of self. Alternatively, any soul can choose to undergo the experience of life in a separate physical form, interacting with other souls in their own physical forms. This is the ultimate way to experience oneself as a self.

And that’s why we are here?

We have all made this choice: to use the human form as a vehicle to help us become more conscious of ourselves as the amazing beings we are. The aim is to experience every possible experience that enables us to emerge more and more consciously and fearlessly as ourselves. We begin as helpless infants for whom the experience of separate existence is quite terrifying. But we end as autonomous, self-realised beings for whom human existence is the most amazing way of being, feeling joyful and free and sharing love with the whole of life.

More frequently asked questions

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1,064 thoughts on “Reincarnation: the 35 steps of soul evolution

  1. I went to the Mellen-Thomas Benedict site and listened to the free CD of his talk in L.A. I am still thinking about most of what he said, but he did raise a question in my mind about the “lineage” of reincarnation. Until recently, he said, we were all reincarnating along blood lines. But now that families do not stay together so much, we may reincarnate into “the matrix of our issues.” Now, if you have come to the end of your blood line, there is no choice but to do this. In my case, my husband and I were both the only surviving child of our parents, his sister and my brother dying in infancy. We had four children, but one died in his 30s, and the other 3 have–by choice/inability–never had children (and only one married.) My husband is deceased, and we were all the last of our blood line. Do you have any idea where I and the children are likely to reincarnate in order to continue our unfoldment?

    • Hi Sister Grumpy,

      We don’t usually reincarnate along bloodlines. We can, and do, choose to reincarnate within our soul family group, which also includes people with physical bodies from other genetic backgrounds. We incarnate within groups that are learning the same, or similar, life lessons. We play different roles for each other each lifetime, so that your parents might be your children next time, or your children your parents, or people you love profoundly this time around you want nothing to do with in the next lifetime. The person who hurt you most this lifetime might actually be your best friend, who you chose to help you learn a painful lesson about Love and Forgiveness. It’s very complicated and very simple.

      Bloodlines die out all the time, and others are constantly created. Our bodies have have nothing to do with our spiritual selves except as the vehicles we experience reality in. Where you will be in the next life, and between lives, is back with your soul family. No one is ever lost, we all belong to each other and we all work together towards the same goal – which is Love.

      Love & Peace
      Ama Nazra

    • I agree with Ama. Not sure where T M-B got his info. My understanding is that although we tend to follow our soul group, different experiences from all humanity are important so physical bloodlines would not be primary.

  2. This is regarding suicide as asked by Ken. I couldn’t find the said question to add the reply as website, seems like, archived the previous questions. I couldn’t find Barry’s given link as well.

    My view.
    Eastern religion gives a lot of importance to Nishkam Yoga; Bhagavad Gita says its the finest of all yoga. Its doing ones duty with out expecting the fruits of action. Desire –> Expectation –> attachment. There is a verse in Gita to the effect, “even if one destroys whole 3 worlds, without any attachment in doing his duty, he is not bound by its karma.”

    All souls reaching a particular stage must have gone through myriad of experiences including suicide, may be multiple times. Suicide is an experience as well in itself, as being a cannibal or a saint to an equal measure. Suicide not being looked upon favorably, comes from the idea of free will and later from its logical deductions. [There is some studies done on free will by Benjamin Libet, also with fMRI and currently in theoretical physics towards consciousness and quantum mechanics.}

    The inclination is justified quite well as the illusion of free will is a major determinant for the application of the “Law of Cause and Effect,(law of Karma)”, which is one of the basic rules of the Game. So its not wise to spill the beans early in the Play; if we look through a Guide’s/Master’s perspective.


    • Joe,

      I’m not sure about the fee will piece. I did not mean to imply that the Universe has a judgment around it. I agree it is an experience and usually one chooses to repeat the curriculum .But my Guru talked about “karmic whiplash” (God accrues interest) and in Destiny of Souls The Higher Guides (Council of Elders) made it clear they were not happy over a soul who resorted to suicide quite often. Divine Love is deep, unfathomable and unconditional but can appear stern when needed.

      In talking with angels and other like beings, I get that at the lower levels free will exists. In Joel Whitten’s “life Between Life”, he came across a woman whose contract was to have great success but instead got involved with drugs and alcohol, went off a cliff and died and completely messed up her plan. The woman who appeared before him (he was a hypnotherapist for Life Between Life regression) was an “emergency incarnation” her guides had assembled to put her back on track.

      I think at the highest levels there may not be free will. But I have seen in my own life warnings (when I fell into mental illness) a great deal was at stake by continuing in a certain direction. I think of it in two ways. One model is quantum mechanics in which everything is probability, but some probabilities are much more fixed than others. The other in conjunction is the oscilloscope in which lines (probabilities) not only within but between everyone are constantly adjusting to one another. But this happens within a framework that cannot be “jumped”.

      Part of the Earth trip imo opinion is how does one align with the doership of the God self. I have heard good psychics say, “You are a year behind”.

      So I don’t know. I see certain things moving. I see how things are put into place. An old girlfriend I had not seen in 17 years showed up at church today. Did “I” do that? absolutely not. Certain timings, many, are clearly the work of the God Self. But I do see some small amount of wiggle room for choice. It seems to spice up the game.

      There is a chapter in Yogananda where he saves a deer at his school from illness. The deer appears in a dream and says “let me go, you are preventing me from moving on which I need to do”. Was the mistake built in?

      Again. I revere ancient texts, but there is a lot of experiential things happening which seem to be clarifying these things. We could say, “But the movie has already been in the can”. Yes. But which movie? If all are probabilities within a range, then there are many possible outcomes, or some. How it ends up to a degree might depend to an extent on us. How much? I don’t know.

    • Hello Ken,

      Meeting your GF after 17 years is not purely accidental. lol

      “We meet only those people with whom our meeting is predestined. Duration of association with each person is also preordained. One should not grieve if one is separated or if the association does not last long.” – Neem Karoli Baba.


    • Well, let me have the privilege to introduce Neem Karoli baba to the group who doesn’t recognize him.

      He was a mystic lived in India, active between 1950-70s,and died in 1973. He gathered fame through his western devotees like Ram Dass and Dr. Larry Brilliant. Ram Dass (Richard Alpert) was a Harvard psychologist and Larry was a physician who later participated in smallpox eradication program and google’s philanthropic arm, as CEO. Both are still living and giants in their fields, so stories about baba cant be refuted as myths. Both gives public talks to prominent forums like TED.

      This is an excerpt/link on how Larry Brilliant first met baba; from d book “Miracle of Love.”


    • Ah, I know that story very well. Used many times on Enlightenment Intensives. Yep, Neem Karoli Baba – a highly evolved Old King I believe.

    • Thank you for the reintroduction. We’ve discussed him before. Although he was not my “primary” Guru. I always had a very profound connection to him. IN 1992-1995 he appeared to me in a powerful series of dreams, one of which was perhaps one of the top two “Guru ‘ dreams I ever had.

      His presence ( It used to be primarily my Guru, Anandamurti, who came to me in dreams), was part of a grand teaching that Guru was not the form, but a Universal frequency using the form. When my Guru died, I had lingering issues with him because of certain events, so the real Guru, that which is everywhere and everything, just switched forms. Neem Karoloi Baba’s presence in my perception was much gentler and became a form I could work with and let in.

      It was quite an extraordinary experience. That dream is here.I still use his last command to me as it still rings in my ears. What is true for one is true for all from the Higher Self.

      “The sharp, piercing chord of that call, responding to the seeds of my dreams, and not yet germinated with the appearance of the Guru beyond his physical death in the channeled state, came to me on a September morning in 1992. Anandamurti had always been in my dreams, but on this morning, something equally auspicious happened, something that would take me much time to fathom its full import and purpose. I had a dream, but not with my “Baba”. It was with Ram Das’ Guru, Neem Karoli Baba. In the dream I recalled that Ram Das had written that one of the most powerful moments of grace you could receive from his Guru was to catch the Guru’s gaze and have him hold it on you. In the dream, a cranky Ram Das was setting up a sixteen- millimeter camera in a small room. He kept muttering and commenting that he didn’t know why this was being done, why I was supposed to get this, but he set it up nd then was gone. As I watched the film begin to roll, Neem Karoli Baba appeared looking exactly like his pictures, wearing only his famous blanket. Almost immediately he turned, straightened up, and looked right at me. His gaze was steady and he held me in it for over thirty seconds, pointedly making it clear that it he was fixated on me. This dream, this encounter, this moment was to be for me. Then the scene began to shift and I was in his country, a land possessed and protected by him. It was green and lush, expansive and quiet, and made up mostly of soft grassy fields, with some woods. Then, like a beautiful song, in short, exact “edited” pieces, the various parts of me, all of them from my psyche, began to call and speak out. The scene unfolded as a kaleidoscope, as each piece represented by someone I knew or someone well known, took his turn. In the safety of his land, each called out their truth in a mesmerizing, flowing sequence.

      Suddenly, Neem Karoli Baba appeared before me again, only this time, not on film. He looked me right in the eye, his presence radiating an incredible force, and said, ”Whatever you have, whatever you need, whatever you do…YOU BRING IT TO ME”.

      I woke up with a jolt, the echo of his message resounding in my head. As I sat up, with my head in my hands, my body flooded with energy, I felt my center at my solar plexus, known as the third chakra, on fire. The Divine energy had been so aroused that the flame of it literally “lit up” my stomach area like a huge incandescent candle. I couldn’t believe it. The sensation was so visceral and real. I was “buzzing” uncontrollably. I put my head in my hands, swept away by the immense power of what had just occurred, and said to myself, “I have to write a book about this stuff”. At that moment something gave way, and I knew at some time, somewhere, my story was important enough to tell and share publicly.

    • Ken do you have any insight on how aliens play into all of this? I Understand that we are all spiritual beings on a human journey. But I have read quite a bit about the Anunnaki and the decendents of them with -O neg blood. The Queen and all the royals have -O neg blood. Or just aliens in general, what about the ancient pyramids and the writings that they contain? I’ve read that aliens brought us here to planet earth, I know it sounds far fetched, but something has left behind quite a bit of information. Is there a way to piece this all together? I guess we’re all aliens👽 to a certain extent, but the technology they had hundreds of 1000’s of years ago we’re just now getting. Are the aliens spiritual beings as well?

    • Here is my take from studying with a channeled Master presence (one of many I have worked with) for 7 years. The distinction of issues of “aliens, etc” is part of the game of the separation of the mind if any fear is involved. Since all are one and at the highest level everything is agreed upon, there is nothing to fear. All are expressions of Source.

      It is, however, more generally accepted that certain star systems, Sirius, Pleiades, Arcturus have played strong generative and supportive roles regarding human development while the Orion system has in part been rather negative. In the last 5 years I with others (and many before me earlier) have intensively off and on been working with ET guidance, especially the Arcturians. Barbara Marciniak’s works , including the classic “Bringers of the Dawn, which changed my life, comes from the Pleiadians. It is also regarded that many light workers have ET “blood or ancestry and are star seed related. That’s you and me, etc.

      I have a wonderful little book which I recently got again called “ET 101: The Cosmic Instruction Manual for Cosmic Evolution, an Emergency Earth Remedial Edition.” They distinguish between ET and Alien thus.
      “An extraterrestrial is a being whom is in sympathetic resonance with the essence of its genesis.”

      “There is no need to scour the skies for evidence of an alien invasion (as opposed to ET’s.) Look around you instead. Look at those who are peddling fear, vending death, and poisoning the planet…There is no point in fearing an invasion of aliens, since the invasion has already happened and the aliens are already here. You would be better advised to fear that no true intelligence will ever show up on this planet. (It has) And you would be better advised to fear nothing at all”

      “Now that you have learned the difference between ET and Alien, we would like you to forget the distinction immediately. The danger in the definition is that, as mental concepts, they separate once again. This mission is not about separation. Nor is it a Hollywood Western being performed by a cast of good guys and bad guys. It is about light and bringing more of it onto this planet. The invitation to enter into light is extended to all humankind, aliens included, for aliens are only extraterrestrials who have chosen to stand in the darkness., like a lie , and wear a disguise.
      (Extraterrestrial is a transitional which will become unnecessary by the completion of this mission. At this point, human will replace the term. An awareness of your extraterrestrial nature will then be an integral part of all human experience, and “aliens” will no longer occupy the planet.”

      Hope this helps.

    • Hi,

      A concern I have, regarding the Michael’s Teachings are after 7th level under old soul stage, it ends abruptly. There are many incarnations still beyond, on Earth, who comes here under their volition and goodwill. Like Avatars or Sages in Hinduism or Master Guides according to M. Newton.

      ( A story from Ramakrishna and his Disciples).

      “Ramakrishna had a vision of Swami Vivekananda before he met him.

      Absorbed, one day, in samadhi, Ramakrishna had found that his mind was soaring high, going beyond the physical universe of the sun, moon, and stars, and passing into the subtle region of ideas. As it continued to ascend, the forms of gods and goddesses were left behind, and it crossed the luminous barrier separating the phenomenal universe from the Absolute, entering finally the transcendental realm.

      There Ramakrishna saw seven venerable sages absorbed in meditation. These, he thought, must have surpassed even the gods and goddesses in wisdom and holiness, and as he was admiring their unique spirituality he saw a portion of the undifferentiated Absolute become congealed, as it were, and take the form of a Divine Child. Gently clasping the neck of one of the sages with His soft arms, the Child whispered something in his ear, and at this magic touch the sage awoke from meditation. He fixed his half-open eyes upon the wondrous Child, who said in great joy: ‘I am going down to earth. Won’t you come with me?’ With a benign look the sage expressed assent and returned into deep spiritual ecstasy.

      Ramakrishna was amazed to observe that a tiny portion of the sage, however, descended to earth, taking the form of light, which struck the house in Calcutta where Narendra’s family lived, and when he saw Narendra for the first time, he at once recognized him as the incarnation of the sage. He also admitted that the Divine Child who brought about the descent of the rishi was none other than himself.”

      Where they (Ramakrishna or Vivekananda) are placed under Michael’s teachings? To me they cant be Old Souls, level 7.

      P.S:- I presume, the seven Sages are the Saptarishis according to Hinduism and the Plane of ideas are the casual plane aptly described by Sri Yukteshwar in the book, “Autobiography of a Yogi”.


    • We have addressed this several times as it comes up often. You might look in the archives. Basically the 5 stages are for physical incarnation. There are according to Michael two more stages with 7 sub stages beyond. These would encompass issues such as higher planes, more complete merger, what we call Ascended Master energy and realms. The mind can barely conceive.

      Nice story.

  3. Barry,
    How do we access archives> The site flipped and now we have only 3 posts? There used to be an “older post” place but I don’t see it.Thanks.

    • Yeh, I’m not sure why that is tbh – possibly the way I’ve set the max size of threads or something. I’ll see what I can do. But meantime at the very bottom below the last comment there’s always a left arrow and a bit of text saying “« Older Comments” – click on that and it takes you to the last 50 or so.


  4. I see it. Thanks. So you can “scroll back”. If you can set up an complete archives it would help. WE tend to recycle topics. And I loved the passage from Michael on the dispassion of the Soul.

  5. this is kewl. In the end, it would be better to accomplish much in the way of wisdom and knowledge. I should just be okay being an ancient soul. Someday, I’ll realize it is amazing! I got told to stop trying to be a baby. lol
    That happiness is from being my true self, and helping children grow.

    But is it possibru to know how many lives I have lived? Including this one?

  6. This is for James. James I am doing this for the benefit of a larger audience and you are the example. I don’t know if your response was to Barry’s link and info or the philosophy of the site. You will notice over six years of comments on this topic. In them there are questions, answers, references to books, personal experiences that validate the material, cross references to religious and spiritual traditions, etc. Obviously this has been deeply thought out, investigated, and been around the track.

    Your comment typifies what I call the “new atheist” stance on religion and spirituality but since you did not elaborate, you just as well may have come form a more established tradition.

    My point is these types of critiques come from a place usually of someone who thinks they understand or know a topic but in reality not only has very little knowledge of the landscape but also has not taken any time whatsoever to investigate or explore what the topic is all about.

    The new atheists do this all the time. They think they know everything. They know nothing. They make a blanket assumption based on the lowest hanging fruit of the excesses of conventional Western religion. They know nothing about Eastern religions and their sophistication. They know nothing about the vast and diverse history of over 5000 years of the mystical traditions, from the Yogis to the Buddhist Rimpoches to the Sufis. They have no interest or desire to learn of the validity of the connection to what be termed “atmospheric presence” of the unseen, because they are founded in “scientific fundamentalism.” And what is worse, they *refuse* to make the effort.

    Since I am an early childhood expert of 30 years, it is akin to someone who pontificates that early childhood education is merely “baby sitting”. They have no knowledge of child development, of the extensive work over decades in behavior, of neural development in young children
    nor any of the extensive research that validates the importance of quality early chlldhood care and the reams and volumes of research on methods that elevate chidren’s growth and learning.It is a real problem in America. The self anointed ignorant expert. Your response was not only deeply shallow, but incredibly callow as well.(Callow- inexperienced and immature.)

    Thank you for demonstrating a real problem in this world.

  7. if any person deal with me and if try to cheat or do mistake with me then that person face so many problems and some time go away from my sight why this thing trouble me so much

  8. Hi Baz & Ken,
    My friend’s brother believes in reincarnation. He says, the more lives one has lived, the more intellectually superior you become. So for example, a Doctor could not be a baby or child soul. Is this correct? Is intelligent development linked with Spiritual development?
    Also on U.K. Lifetime channel last few Fridays, there has been a fantastic show called “Ghost Inside My Child”, about parents whose children have had difficult childhoods, due to traumatic past life deaths. it is a U.S. programme and is worth watching.
    P.S. Barry – Are you Welsh?

    • Hi Helen,

      I too believe in reincarnation, and know from memory, that degrees of intelligence are also a choice made from lifetime to lifetime. Emotional maturity is what we develop through the process. Sometimes we choose lifetimes when we are ‘the’ lesson for other people – such as a lifetime of a severely disabled (mental) person that other people have to constantly look after. The true ‘self’, of which this personality we wear at this moment is only a small aspect, is already super intelligent .. which is why we can choose the life experiences that teach the lessons that provide the emotional growth with the detachment that is required to say, choose to be a murderer or the victim of one.

      There are very few baby souls on the planet these days, but one could easily choose to become a doctor, and with fierce determination (being stubborn is also a choice), and the right incentives, might succeed in what they want. If you scroll back to Lessons of each Stage you’ll see social awareness and following rules is very important to them. And I know of plenty of very clever doctors who have major temper tantrums when they don’t get their own way.

      I was born remembering all my past lives, and when I started speaking, spoke three languages, English, French and another my parents could not recognise. I grew up with ‘memories’ that made no sense, because reincarnation was not a subject discussed in my home. It was not until I was an adult that I heard of the concept, and suddenly everything I ‘knew’ made sense. I am an ancient soul, beyond old. We too exist, even if not written about here in this article. I incarnate by request. 🙂

      Love & Peace

    • Ama,
      I disagree that there are very few baby souls on the planet. The Us alone is flooded with them. The entire religious right and nearly every Republican presidential candidate are baby souls. The Mid East is awash with baby souls as are huge swaths of Africa. Just for starters.

    • There is a correlation between soul age and wisdom, but not IQ. I’ve noticed a good number of baby souls in the medical profession. Smart, but can be judgemental. Most highly qualified psychiatrists are young souls. Intelligence is a faculty any of us can work with or not, as we choose. Scholars tend to value it most obviously, but they don’t necessarily use it!

      I’m recording Ghost in my Child. A year or two ago I remember the producers were looking for kids with past lives to film.

      Welsh? No lass, aa’m originally a Geordie!


    • I agree with Barry. There are many baby souls who are quite intelligent intellectually. Often Soul lessons revolve around having a high intellect but little empathy or characteristics of more mature souls. So someone can be “smart” or knowledgeable” in their field but not be well developed emotionally and be fiercely tribal and be all “black” or “white”.. Ben Carson is a good example. Some of the Supreme Court justices, particularly Scalia, Thomas and Alito also are good examples. Many baby souls like Ted Cruz went to Harvard Law School.

    • No offense, but Ken no longer has a reply button, I’m not sure who else can better answer my question. I have family in the entertainment industry. Without getting off subject once one sells their soul, is there any way to get it back? Also who exactly do they sell it too? Is there really a such thing as a blood sacrifice(where one sacrifices a loved one for fame and riches)?

    • A Geordie ! Howay Man! I read about your upbringing somewhere a while ago, and it was very similar to my own. Then again, The North is similar to Wales in many respects, as I have a friend who once lived in Middlebrough. Much nicer people than those shandy drinking Southerners! Ahm gannin noo as ahm propa paggered!
      (Ken – must get your Geordie translation booklet out).

    • Where is your reply button? Any way thanks. Everything always goes back to the answer you gave. Im still a lil confused about the reincarnation process. Some on this website have said we reincarnate throughout the same blood line. Others have said that if you reincarnated into royalty that is where you will continue to reincarnate, through a royal bloodline. Does royalty reincarnate as poor regular ppl? Another poster on this same website said that she reincarnates whenever she wants too. It was actually you who said we don’t have a choice? Which is it? Also how will I know in this lifetime if I have moved past this life times lifes lessons. I really don’t want to repeat any of this again. I would like to move on to my next lesson.

    • @inquiring minds:
      Re. Reply buttons: I recently limited discussion threads to go 3 replies deep. (This is because they used to have no limit, but then some threads were getting close to 100 replies deep – unreadable on mobile.) I’ll reset it to 10, but in any case if you want to reply to a specific individual just put their name first, like:
      blah blah “

    • It was actually a serious question, as i have read up on this and have family in the business. I didn’t see a reply button to ur earlier post. I was once told there is no such thing as a stupid question, so go figure.

    • If you are serious, here it is. There is no such thing. The “soul” cannot be sold. There is no one to sell it to. The technology of how things work involves intense pre-life planning, in reality everyone is safe and here to experience contrast (dark and light) and lessons. There is no way to get fame unless its a life plan-lesson.

      I would suggest reading the older comments where you will find extensive discussion on these topics and the true nature and back story of physical existence.

  9. Enquiring minds .. we incarnate where we want to, whether among paupers or royal family, in every country and every society and every religion. It’s all about the lessons we choose to learn, and the people we choose to learn them from. We can stay within our soul group, or venture into experiences with others from other groups, again, its all our choice.

    And the other question .. I agree with Ken in saying that you cannot ‘sell’ your soul, nor have it taken from you. Soul and Spirit are different names for the same thing – our true selves, not the limited personality we have in each lifetime. The true self is eternal, cannot be given away, cannot be stolen, sold, borrow, lost, or overwhelmed. The personality of this lifetime, however, can be overwhelmed and oppressed by negative energies and entities, and people are foolish enough to try and bargain with the unseen, for power or fame or cash or glory, but the outcome is seldom good, either in this lifetime or others. If someone you know thinks they sold their soul, then they are giving away their power, and they can claim it back again .. but there will be a struggle, for something willingly given into darkness, lays a pattern of belief into the energy of the person, and the ego loves it .. anything that keeps us small and ‘safe’ makes the ego happy. It’s not that our egos doesn’t want us to achieve greatness, it just lives in fear of exactly that – and of dissolution after we die .. because the ego cannot exist once we are our true selves again – it is simply a small part of the complex being that is ‘human incarnate’. We just forget its small because it has A VERY LOUD VOICE. 🙂

    Love & Peace

    • I agree. The issue of bloodlines does not work for me although souls generally incarnate with others from the same group. Souls go all over the map for experiences and lessons.

    • Thanks for putting that into perspective Ama, I am not the sharpest knife and I sometimes have to read things several different times from several different people before I actually get it. Thanks again

    • Inquiring minds .. I am of the same belief that no question is stupid if a person wants to learn. We can all be silly at times. 🙂 Glad to help.

  10. I feel I’m about one eighth into the first level of old souldom. Have been there for a very long time, born (physically) into it. Still have a very, very,
    long way to go. Really appreciate you, Ama. Sea

  11. Barry,

    This is primarily for you but anyone could chime in. I have been at this for over 45 years. In the last 3 years or so there has been, where I live, and I suppose everywhere an “eruption of light”. Meetups are springing up all over. Powerful online meditations arr common place. The experience of deep communion with Source energy, once rare, is now plentiful. I can access internally and in group states states i used to get only when I went to India. This is stuff I would wonder about when reading The “Autobiography of a Yogi”. Now I am living it. The extraordinary has become ordinary.

    To me this feels beyond the mature soul stage. I think I and others came in at late stage mature and have moved this life to early stage old. This type of “beginning merger” feels like old soul stuff. We are not at the top like Yogananda was, but we are definitely well past base camp and on the mountain’s lower slopes.

    What do you think?

    • Although you have been at this reseach a lot longer than me I agree with you Ken. I have noticed thay the last 5 years or so have generated an increase shift in consciousness. There is a popular online community called High Existence that I check into on a fairly regular basis which is made up of mostly younger folks in their teens and 20’s but the articles and discussion topics go pretty deep into a wide range of metaphysical and higher consciousness states (in fact its where I first became aware of Michael Newton). I am really taken back at times at how this younger generation views the world, its way beyond anything we discussed offline 🙂 as a child of the 80’s and 90’s.
      I would be interested to know if anyone has done any in-depth channeling with Michael regarding the long standing extraterrestrial influence on the planet. ET’s have long been a favorite topic of mine, especially the research done by Dolores Cannon and the highly advanced volunteer souls that have been coming in for the last 50-60 years. These souls are free of Eartly karma and certainly have to be having an influence, especially the most recent wave (as outlined in her book ‘Three Waves of Volunteers and the New Earth’).
      Fascinating stuff, we certainly chose a great time to incarnate on this planet.

    • I agree there has been a long standing ET presence here. Actually, in terms of true definition, many of us are ET’S or carry ET energy and have strong ties to other star systems. There is a wonderful little book called ET101: The Cosmic Intergalactic Manual for Planetary Evolution (An Emergency Remedial Earth Edition). Its a channeled work. ET is defined as “An Extraterrestrial Is a being whom is in sympathetic harmony with the essence of its genesis.”

      Most ET consciousness that has been sent here to help from my experience are in energetic form or use energetic frequencies. Thus I find it rather humorous to see people looking for UFO’s and physical contact since they have been communicating and working with us for a long time. Especially the Arcturians.

      I’m not so interested in ancient history as I am in what’s going on now. I got involved with a local powerful spirit communicator who was approached about 4 years ago and we started doing intensive work with them. The first contacts were funny because they had no idea about emotions and human issues and were somewhat confused. It was like Star Trek. Later on there was a dual group session in which they put an energetic obelisk in the center of the small room (there were 5 of us) and it pulsated with energy. Then they said the following. “Do not think that this moment is not equal to or more important than the signing of the Declaration of Independence.” (I live near Philadelphia)

      Since then people have been tuning in like crazy, Intergalactic friends show up quite often to facilitate meditations, healings and sacred journeys.

      I’m sure others have been dealing with this much longer than me, but I only go by what I’ve experienced, not what I read. I find certain accounts or information interesting, but if I have not experienced it, then it is not gospel.

      P.S. The kids are doing great, but they don’t know the arduous journey of anchoring the grid for half a century so they could flow in easily. They have no idea of what its like to be a true pioneer and to cross the dimensional divide.

      And if you want channeled information, you don’t need to go to Michael. Everyone is opening up and if you ask, it will be right around the corner.

      I channeled a very high guide for a friend the other day and she asked if Jesus was an Arcturian. The answer was, “Why is it important and why are you still creating separation?” Its all one and the issues of “this” and “that” in terms of that information are immaterial and not relevant. Its just mind stuff.

      As Spock would say, “Fascinating.”

    • P.S. By dual group, I mean two different ET groups were sent but there was a time crunch where they had to switch to do the work. They said there was no time for questions because they were on a “Visa”. I took this to mean the energetic window for their frequency to be in resonance with our dimensional one was tight, and therefore no time could be wasted.

    • I did go on High Existence and I will have to check it out more but it seems very drug oriented. There was a whole discussion on how to get the best LSD trip. My feeling is they are kind of entry level. The stuff here would be beyond many of them

    • There are two schools of thought. Eastern philosophy, especially Hinduism and Buddhism teach that Souls moves “up the chain” from simple to complex, that human lives are rare and a privilege, and that’ “transmigration” between forms occurs.

      Michael Newton and the channeled material in “Your Soul’s Gift” address this and say foundationally you come in on a “track”, and although some crossover can occur, basically what you are is what you intended to be. They say animals don’t like the intensity and wide swings of human emotion.

      Regression studies in other cultures reveal prior animal life memories and I have a very gifted animal communicator friend who said she knows of a woman who reincarnated as a horse just to be able to look into the eyes of her estranged daughter. I also know a woman who said she was a Priestess in Egypt who abused he power and was a cat for a lifetime.

      I prefer not to be certain unless I’ve personally experienced something so I don’t know. I don’t think the great Yogi’s are wrong but my intuition at least says once you’ve gotten established in the human cycle, there is not a lot of wild swings back and forth. Once here, usually your trajectory is here, however you started.

    • I agree with Kenstories1. I know of a number of people who believe they were wolves and other predators in past lives, but having never experienced it myself, and I remember all my past lives, I’ll keep an open mind.

      Love & Peace

  12. you say you know about the soul and the afterlife,can you tell me how to get to heaven ….? and the location of heavens door

  13. Its within you. The door is your heart and connection to the higher order frequency of your self. Intuition is the engine. meditation is the car. Since in reality you are “everything”, the idea of “here” and “there” is an illusion.

    • However, if one wishes to deal in the technology of individuation, “Heaven” is what is called “the other side” or the realm of the unseen. Its dimensional frequency is far finer than the physical, the senses and intellect are not equipped to apprehend it. Traditionally one finds it through death, but it can be accessed through Near Death Experiences or deep or unusual mystical contact. Happens a lot, actually.

    • The answer is Aquila you would have known that if you are in contact with extraterrestrial beings and secondly they know more about emotions than what you talk about

    • One of my rules is I only relate what I have personally experienced. This is a pretty vast place. I was sharing one very interesting encounter. I have also dealt with Arcturians and other presences. Their ability to flow love and guidance is quite extraordinary. We and I are always open to others sharing their experiences in a positive manner as to expand our knowledge and the understanding of possibilities. If you have been in touch with various ET encounters, there might have been a less abrasive way to deal with it. From my experience with them, they do not like or promote confrontational attitudes. It does not serve humanity or the Universe.

    • P.S. I have been engaged with Angel and Spirit communicators for quite a while, as well as my own intuitive contact, and it is not unusual for diverse Guides who are not experiencing the depth of the human journey first hand, or are not in space-time, to often not be completely in tune with the ramifications and impact of that journey for those going through it. Some are, some aren’t. Masters who have been here, such as Mary, Jesus, Padre Pio, etc tend to have a better grasp. But there are no hard and fast rules about it. Depends on the Guides.

    • i dont intend to be abrasive i am just stating facts.and this one is for you …i am a Alien from the constellation of Perseus,… should not mislead people with thinking you know the answer when you dont ..

    • Stop lying you are not an alien. If you’re an alien, I’m Elvis Presley. See you can be whatever you want on the net.

  14. If you had read the above, you would see I specified my response from before and invited clarification from your experience. That would be helpful. There are many here who have ET connections and have taken human bodies at this time. Or have contracted to be here for a while. If there is something you’d like to share more, please do.

  15. I love this website and it has helped me so much. But there is one thing I just don’t buy into and it is this Alien thing.
    I believe Aliens do exist, but the distances are so immensely vast to make it here. Due to the laws of Physics, you cannot travel faster than the speed of light.Why don’t we pick up Alien radio waves? Why don’t these ‘Aliens’ just put in an appearance. It is all very cloak and dagger and mysterious. There is no concrete proof at all – and to say Aliens helped us in the past with greatest advancements is a mis-service to Mankind.
    When someone says they are from this constellation or that – it is very wishy washy – can’t they be more precise and pinpoint it? The distance between stars in a constellation is absoutley massive – millions upon millions of light years.
    If Aliens are here to help Mankind in secret – well, considering the mess of the world they are not doing a good job. If they are evil, why is this not exposed and something done about it? It is all very conspirational.
    I think a lot of these UFO’s can be put down to secret Government/Military aircraft, mistaken identity or delusion.
    On previous posts, I believe the general thesis is that animals and humans do not incarnate into other species, so why would that be true of Aliens? What i find more believable is the concept of other dimensions rather than travelling through space, but again, if that were true, why is it kept hidden from us?
    As for Alien Col, if he is from Perseus, I am from Uranus.

    • I would suggest thinking beyond 3D. I can only speak from experience. Most contact is energetic because these civilizations are far beyond ours in development. If they are physically nearby, they are in an inter dimensional space that does not obey our current understanding of physics. Therefore “travel’ In 3D terms does not apply.

      The proper word for light beings is ET, not Alien. Many of us have ET ancestry or are more directly ET based. We just took a human form. Physical incarnation is not limited to Earth. So many of us ARE the “aliens”.

      Advanced consciousnesses do not want to directly-powerfully interfere with humanity’s evolutionary process. So they must be more subtle.

      As to their effectiveness or lack of such. As they told me explicitly on this point, the game is not over.

      Jesus, Buddha, others came. How did they do in “fixing things”. We must work through our stuff. The Universe assists, it will not do it for us.

      We are the ones we have been waiting for.

    • jesus never existed ..jesus and his disciples are to do with the sun and the twelve months ..and ask spirit for the answer to who I am then you will see .

  16. Good morning from Australia everyone. To some of you I am a disembodied entity that might not possibly exist, if you have never ‘experienced’ me, or visited my ‘home world’ called Australia. I speak a foreign language, Strine, but also have learned English English, which is different from American English (sounds similar, depending on your accent, different spelling).

    I have experienced Pleiadian energies, but only as spirit guides for living humans, one of whom I was told was a Pleiadian having a ‘human experience’. I speak with higher energies, most particularly angels, though I can also communicate with elementals (earth nature spirits – planet bound). I also communicate with fallen angels (some redeemed in human bodies) and demons, who are the enemies of living people. I have seen one ‘flying saucer’, once, in the far distance, cigar shaped, that took off at a 45 degree angle, at flash-fast speed.

    I was also born remembering all my past lives to varying degrees. In this lifetime I have studied Archaeology, Anthropology and Christian Theology, although I do not see myself as Christian (unless believing in the Christ energy makes me so) and am happy to state that Jesus was a man, and that he was also called Christus .. these things archaeologists have physical proof of. He also had a brother called James.

    On an energy level, and through my memories, I also know Jesus Christ is a beautiful powerful being, but he was not a Christian either. As to whether he was the Buddha reincarnated, St Germaine, or Swedenborg – as most Swedenborgians tend to believe, or an alien, he was a man of his times –

    IMO, also my memories, we are all aliens, because humanity only came to this planet, it was not ‘born’ or created here. And, if you think about it scientifically, with all the stories about hybrid human/alien beings, we must share our DNA with other species, or .. as I like to think about it .. other ‘races of humans’ across the multiverse, otherwise we wouldn’t be able to cross-breed.

    The sum of this long message is basically ‘why is this important’? Why focus on what we ‘were’ rather than the mess we are creating of the one planet we actually live on? I would suggest we spend more energy focusing on the message than the deliverers .. it seems we cannot save ourselves – which is why we appear to be getting some help? And truthfully, if the governments of the world suddenly announced the aliens have finally arrived humanity as a collective would probably go into a blind panic and attempt to blow them all up. Not to be recommended, I think. I prefer to be alive, and would like my descendants to have their chance too.

    So, if you are an alien, enjoy your adventure on our planet. If you are a fallen angel in a human body, congratulations, nice to know you are redeemed. If you are purely human .. lovely. If you are a fairy in a human body .. I know, humans are very strange and have little or no respect for nature. The message is the same for all of us …

    LOVE ONE ANOTHER, and for humans sake .. quit the bickering.

    We love you.
    Ama and friends.

  17. Barry. I have a question. Giving a talk on this on Sunday. It is generally acknowledged that Soul’s evolve in groups. How does this explain families where some soul’s clearly exhibit “baby soul” traits and another may be mature. I understand that we can expand our circle but I would assume most are near same level. Thanks.

    • Hi Ken
      Do you mean why is it that within human families there can be such a diversity of soul ages?
      It’s true that we often evolve in groups, but not necessarily in the family context. You pick the parents and birth setting according to your life plan – and the parents (and siblings) you choose could be souls you haven’t hung out with much before. You might have to go with what’s available rather than wait for your closest soul mates to incarnate with you.
      There’s also a purely statistical factor. At this time, in a world dominated by young souls, there are more opportunities to be born to parents who happen to be young souls than to old souls , for example. Basically, you have to be born some place. And if you’re an old soul with young soul parents, then you’ll probably want to add into your life plan an agreement with a few soul mates who appear later as the neighbor or schoolteacher who inspire you to see beyond what you’ve been raised to see so far.
      It’s also the case that mature souls as parents sometimes elect to take on infant/baby soul offspring – it really stretches their relating skills.
      For all of this potential diversity in soul ages showing up with human families, it’s easy to see why some families are so “dysfunctional”.

    • Thanks. I was also reading some of the material about the “Entity”, the direct uplink that we belong to and the Cadre, the even larger unit. So within these “relations”, it is clear there is a lot ton draw from.

      Newton talked about small small soul units and perhaps there is overlap. I Think “Soul groups” can be many like concentric circles. So when I was young I hung out at a camp where everyone was really close. At college I ran into different people. When I got involved with my Guru, there was a whole different core set of people all moving in one direction. But I feel now is when some of my closest “soul family” are a part of my life.

      So I think the extentsiveness of our connections can be pretty big.

    • I also think we tend (or want) to gravitate to our soul mates, or at least people on the same level, as we get older during a life.

    • Barry, you wrote: “You might have to go with what’s available rather than wait for your closest soul mates to incarnate with you.”

      Given that there is no ‘time’ in the spiritual planes, you don’t have ‘wait’ for anything, or anyone.

      Saying ‘what is available’ appears to mean that you are in too much of a hurry incarnate, that you cannot wait for the appropriate beings, but have to (forced by ourselves or some other beings?) to incarnate without the correct helpers/teachers – but time being the illusion, what’s the hurry? We all live in the here and now, when we aren’t in the linear planes, so there is literally no hurry .. and as I wrote, no reason to have to wait.

      Our soul families number in the 1000’s, and the personality we have today is only a mask covering a tiny aspect of the true ‘self’, so your ‘closest soul mates’ actually might never exist again in any form that you last saw them – simply because we weave new personalities for every lifetime, and so does everyone else within the collective.

      Instead of waiting, to repeat or expand, a lesson, we can choose a whole new group of teachers (or people we experience events with) and still learn what we have to without touching on anyone from the previous group, or take a sliver from each of the previous ‘personalities’ (from the collective energy) we shared a life with, and create a whole new group of the ‘same’ individuals, playing the same roles for us – while other ‘parts’ of that group are off doing other things, experiencing other lives etc.

      In the end each soul group is just one being made up of many parts. At the end of our learning we will return to that group, and become that being, who will return to the next higher level group (which is one being also), and so on and upwards until we all return and are assimilated into the WHOLE that is the true and only SELF. The I AM .. But we are in no hurry .. except when we are human.

    • Thanks for your wisdom. When I read of the larger constructs of who we are that are part of still larger ones until all is one, I came to the same conclusion.

    • Hi Barry, hello all,
      New to the site, but really appreciate all your sagacious comments. A quick question about 11:11:
      The numbers have been cropping up for years, and since I’m a bit of a slow learner, I didn’t really pay it much mind initially. Anyway, I’m just wondering what your thoughts are on this seemingly ‘magical’ occurrence — and if they can be related to soul age?
      Best wishes

    • Hi Gregor,
      As far as I understand it’s our guides catching our attention, letting us know that they are around. At the same time, it can also be a ‘barometer’ of our openness to spiritual influence.

  18. Thanks for prompt response, Barry. Yes, I guess it’s akin to a sudden breeze that lifts the veil, if only briefly. 🙂

  19. All this is new to me but I find it very useful. How do I link with Guru who will perhaps coach. It seems there is a lot about life that don’t get talk about any lot of people are unaware.

    • True Guru cannot be “found”. (by the mind) The true Guru is within. Each teacher is the outer expression of the inner Guru who is your own Higher Self. Therefore if your intention to learn is sincere, which it seems it is, then you already have everything within you. The journey is a process. Start with the intention that you wish to open more, connect more, expand more. Ask your inner Guru to direct you in the form that works for you (God, Jesus, Guides, whatever.)

      The outer form you need for each step will appear before you at the right time. Not before or after. One cannot fake readiness. As you engage the process, the terrain of it will become clearer. At this moment all you need is the next step. Don’t worry about steps down the road. Just be attentive and mindfiul to what is in front of you and what arises. There are so many teachers and teachings.

      You might take a look at Matt Kahn. Search for him online and on You Tube. He’s very cool. Yet I have no way of knowing if he is right for you. Only you will know. See where you get drawn and who or what rings your bell.

  20. Hi Barry!

    I have one question related to the soul age, that might be interesting for all:

    At which soul age/level an individual develops the golden halo in the head section of the aura?

    Thanks, and love and peace and joy to you!!


    • Not sure how to answer you Luke as I’ve seen different interpretations of the golden halo. Presumably it is to do with the 7th chakra – the glow represents a very open/active crown, which is the human link to the spiritual cosmos. It may therefore signify spiritual awakening/openness within any life, regardless of soul age/level. The greater the openness, the brighter the ‘halo’. If so, one could have such a halo during a deep spiritual experience, but not have it after returning to ‘normal’. It would also make sense for permanently awakened individuals (Jesus, Buddha etc) to have a very bright constant halo.

  21. In Numerology 11 is The Master of Light so light for sure now needed by all… when you have learnt teach it!

  22. i think when the time of renaissance begun, mankind collectively reached the young phase. now we are on the edge of similar change and going towards matures time, where we start to invest in individuals rights. right now we can see the extreme society built for the young souls more than ever but we can also see flashes of mature thinking more than ever. for example we are finally starting to agree about the equality of life

  23. This is a question for whomever: It is pretty well excepted that when the body dies, the soul leaves the brain and heads, generally, for the 5th dimension – everyone like to talk about consciousness and vibration levels. So we leave a human via the quantum process called “pair annihilation” as photon emf pure energy and transcend to gamma-ray energy and possibly higher.

    Who can tell me where in the brain our soul was and when we convert to pure emf energy what the frequency (wavelength) (vibration) band is in the 5th dimension??

    • This is only my understanding. The body is the soul’s expression. The soul “inhabits” the body as water fills a container but in actuality the soul is far more vast than the body and our consciousness as human is a point of focus. There are perhaps more powerful parts of the system such as third eye or heart chakra where the soul is felt more keenly we mist remember that we have an aura, and etheric body that are non physical and a multidimensional self that are all parts of the “Soul”.

      NDE’s. etc give us linear accounts of feelings of “me” beyond the body, but the astral or higher self bodies are again a point of focus. In reality we are everything and the idea that “everything” is stored in the brain for me does not compute.

      In quantum terms, the body in truth does not really exist as we perceive it and locality itself is an illusion. I’ve had friends who have died communicate, “I am everywhere” or ” how much fun it is to be in so many places at once”. I think whatever lies beyond communicates with us in terms wee can understand in 3D.

      As to your frequency questions, that I am not familiar with and what the exact band width is I don’t know. I suppose there are those working on that. The answers would give the atheists fits.

  24. Hi Sam,

    ‘accepted’ by whom? Unless you mean that people don’t accept (excepted) that we go to the 5th dimension when we die. I certainly don’t, nor do any of my spiritual friends. And we never stop being human, even when we are a spirit. Our bodies are the vehicles that our spirit travels around in, when having a physical lifetime. We create a new one for each journey. We don’t ‘change’ energy in leaving the body. The body ceases to function, we take it off and move on.

    Our spirit does not reside within the body in any particular location, although some ancient people’s believed it lived with our liver, and some say within our hearts. Our spirits animate the body, surround it, and connect through our chakra system, at seven major points within the body mass, hundreds of smaller points (called nadis) through-out the body mass, and eight major median points within the spiritual bodies (levels of the aura). In other words, our body mass is within our spirit/soul.

    The brain is just an organ, it does not house the mind or soul. It provides a central point for the electrical system, which can be damaged, as proved by people with brain injuries who have to be ‘rewired’ (taught to speak, walk, and other motor skills), The memory is stored within our spirit and we carry it from lifetime to lifetime. Some people choose to be able to connect to these memories (me being one of them), so that they can use the knowledge of other lifetimes consciously in this one. We do this unconsciously all the time. It is not necessary to have past life memories to have a happy and productive life this time around. The spirit functions without the body. The body cannot function without a spirit/soul (spirit and soul are two different names for the same thing).

    The ascension people say that we can refine our energy (by changing our beliefs and attitudes) to become 5th dimensional beings, but we live in the 3rd dimension and they still find living here tough. Some say they become 12th dimensional beings, same problem. I have never heard anyone say they are an 8th dimensional being, so I have to wonder about the rest. My belief is that if we did become a 5th dimensional being when alive, we would no longer be seen on this planet, because the higher the vibration gets the less visible it is to lower energy beings.

    BTW, as a side-note, I was once give a ‘healing’ that changed the structure of my DNA to 12 strand (instead of 2 as everyone else is supposed to be), according to the lady doing the healing. I should have that tested one day, to either confound the doctors or myself, because it didn’t changed my nature or make my psychic gifts stronger, as she said it would. Lots of people have odd beliefs, the majority of which are probably not true.

    In my experience, when we die we have two choices. We become our true greater selves again, as spirits, and return to Source, until we choose to have another lifetime – or we become ghosts, which are lost souls, outside of the higher energies. The ghosts can become spirits again, easily enough, they only have to choose, but they are, in many senses, still 3rd dimensional energy .. they just don’t have their bodies anymore. And if you want to speak to ghosts, there are toys out there now which can work, but if you want to speak to spirits, we do it all the time when we are sleeping. So make your request before you sleep and then try and remember your dreams. You might surprise yourself.

    Food for thought ..
    Love & Peace

    • I agree with almost all of what you say except this
      “The ascension people say that we can refine our energy (by changing our beliefs and attitudes) to become 5th dimensional beings, but we live in the 3rd dimension and they still find living here tough. Some say they become 12th dimensional beings, same problem. I have never heard anyone say they are an 8th dimensional being, so I have to wonder about the rest. My belief is that if we did become a 5th dimensional being when alive, we would no longer be seen on this planet, because the higher the vibration gets the less visible it is to lower energy beings.”

      My experience is we exist in all dimensions. Its a question of what we want and are able to access and what is functional or of the highest for any moment. I see the issue of “ascension” (rising up) as not quite accurate. The real issue is “descension”, bringing higher frequencies and anchoring them into the 3rd dimension.

      People like Jesus imo opinion were able to integrate all multi-dimensionality at once. Everyone innately has the same capacity. But the core of this web site is information on the stages of development and why most can’t do that at this time. A caterpillar is not yet a butterfly. So all dimensions exist simultaneously within. I can feel frequency differences at different times but I don’t have to “go anywhere”.

      So I agree, the soul is always containing all potentials at every moment. When you drop the body, usually you regain access to higher frequency because 3D no longer binds you to its focus..

      But you don’t have to die to do it.

  25. Ken and Ama – To a certain extent we are talking semantics. A certain % of our soul stays always “at Home” in the 5th (or if you are someone really special, maybe a higher) dimension. When we chose to incarnate on earth in the 3rd dimension, a certain % actually descends as photon energy to this (the 3rd) dimension and physically integrates with the fetus brain via “pair production” into the Pineal gland.

    We are obviously 5th dimension beings, human or whatever, we could be travelers who choose to experience many other species in this galaxy/universe or another universe. If we feel we won’t hinder our learning curve for an incarnation we may chose to maintain our 5th dimension consciousness and memories for any number of reasons. I would imagine to facilitate communication.

    Some of us that are a little dumber, chose to block the ability to directly communicate with our higher self, and friends, and guides, ascended masters, or others. We chose to do this so our learning curve will be enhanced and not biased by previous incarnation knowledge or acceptance of common 5th dimension knowledge. Therefore I require vetted mediums for communication.

    I can flat guarantee I won’t do that again if I need to incarnate again. I will bring all my knowledge even if I slow my learning / evolving curve.

    Part of my studies is exactly for atheists, scientists, engineers in proving, using physics, in that when a human body can no longer sustain life but energy must be conserved – our soul will depart the pineal gland via pair annilhilation (transition) and return to its Home with new experiences and learning to further ehance our evolvement. At that point our soul is once again complete and a 5th dimension emf vibration (or higher if your special, like an ascended master) and can communicate up and down the frequency spectrum from DC to cosmic.

    If we feel we have some unfinished business or just want to hang around for a bit in the 4th (ghost?) dimension, we can do that too. But usually we just want to get Home, rejoin ourself, rest and then get back to evolving.

    • Hi Sam,

      I am having a holiday after I am dead. I came back into life only 18 years after I died the last time, and it was not long enough. LOL

      I am curious – in your opinion, is God/Source/whatever a 7th dimensional being? Are the angels 6th? That would make ascended masters (human) 5th, leaving average humanity (spirit) 4th, the living 3rd, ghosts touching 2nd and demons 1st (with some crossovers on all levels). That’s technically how I understand the hierarchy of heaven.

      I agree about just wanting to get Home after dying, but having spent time as a ghost, I can also understand why some people choose that path. You learn next to nothing, going around in painful tight circles of emotions, but all learning adds to our knowledge, and the outcome is generally not harmful .. except to our karma.

    • Sam,
      On a practical note I teach “connecting to your guides”. Everyone has the ability. At this stage you could open more than you think. I use writing as it grounds the information and flow. If you sit quietly with a notebook, perhaps some music, ask your guides to help you connect and open to the process of communication with them. Don’t filter what comes. Often we get caught in “Is it me or God”? Don’t ask that. Just let it flow. With practice you will see authenticity.

      Mu suspicion in what is holding yourself back is your BELIEF that you can’t do it. I thought that for a long time until I began doing it. Now I teach it.

      Taking intuitive development classes helps as does being in the energy of good collective meditations, especially channeled ones. Explore not leaning on the external channels and mediums as much. Experiment with your own self reliance in this regard.

      Above all, what might hold you back is unrealistic expectations, that its like developed people or nothing. It takes time, just like learning to play an instrument. Give yourself and your guides some space for small steps and I think you will be surprised.

      “Let go, Let God”

  26. Ken – there are two elements we are talking about. One is our Christ Consciousness or awareness or sentience or evolvement to our Creator and Oneness. That matters not what dimension our vibration (or part of) is occupying. And depending on what we are focusing on experiencing to further our evolvement will determine what we allow ourselves to be aware of.
    The other is our actual vibration (or emf frequency). It is kinda like the 3rd dimension is the visible (just an example) band [500nm / 600teraHz] and 5th dimension is gamma-ray band [1femtometer / 300 zettaHz]. When in the 5th dimension (gamma-ray) we have a visble aura modulated signifying our level of evolvement from a “dirty” white, & lite red to a deep purple. Souls beyond that aura is a brillant white (ascended masters), elvolvement is no longer of any year consequence as they are while keeping their individuality are Oneness and 100 % Christ Consciousness with the Creator. They create, teach, focus on embodying everything in unconditional love.

  27. To all in general. If we have seen the ‘Light’ we have to teach it or share it I believe. Thanks for all your energy given to teach!

    • Hi Ken et al, interesting thought about descension, except that we are surrounded by 5th dimension (for want of a better description) and higher vibrational energy all the time, so we don’t need to ‘anchor’ it anywhere. We live in a state of separation from Source (God or whatever else name people want to use) by choice. We live without past lives memories by choice. I don’t think the problem is that people ‘can’t’ feel the higher vibrations, but more that they don’t choose to. We underestimate the power of choice, of free will, in our lives, particularly before we come into each incarnation. We when choose to act from anger rather than love we increase the separation from Source, from our natural state of ‘being’. Separation is lonely, it leads to fear, so we invent pretty names to explain our lack of understanding, which just leads to more confusion.

      I agree that we are all multidimensional beings, all the time, but our bodies exist with the third dimension, not the fourth, fifth or 12th. To remain within the body and have the physical existence, we have to remain 3rd dimensional beings, at least for the length of the process (life). After that or the blocks we have built around ourselves, to memories of multiple lives behind us, and to touching higher Source energy, disappear … unless we choose to become ghosts, which are not 4th dimensional beings, but rather closer to 2nd, if we must give their energy a label .. they are closer to the dark than the Light, and only Lighten up ‘after’ they choose to return to their true spiritual energy (higher vibration).

      I think we need to remove the labels of 4th, 5th, 9th, 13th, or anything else we are inventing. They get in the way of the logic of saying .. our true self inhabits a slower, lower, more dense vehicle, for a while .. and then we go back to what we are .. aspects (pieces) of the great I AM, choosing to experience Separation.

  28. IN the end, wee are talking about the same thing. Rather than “anchoring” i might use the word “integrate. My actual experience of all of this is far less than my intellectual understanding.

    I agree that for the purpose of the drama, game or “Lila” or whatever metaphor one wishes to use, that which is everything creates individuation and basically that individuation involves frequency. So it depends on which lens you wish to use. I agree with Ama that for our purposes here, the primary focus is 3rd and it would be hard to “quickly” try to maintain for example a 5th dimensional consciousness in toto.

    The point of the Soul Age aspect of the Michael teachings is that there is a long gradual progression from apparent separation and more primitive states to greater maturation. This maturation to me is a “reintegration” with what one already is, as from one lens, one is already everything and there is nowhere to go.

    I do however, disagree that our essence has any particular location within the body..

    So to me the Angel or Master of higher intergalactic being knows of its true identity and can easily merge with that, or present itself as individuated when circumstances dictate. Because the Source (which is everything) allows itself to play this out apparently in stages, there simultaneously can be “differentiation” of dimensional frequencies.

    In any game or movie, there needs to be structure, rules, organization. movement and coherence.

    However, when the game or movie is over, all go home. So we are basically saying the same thing. Just depends on the particular perspective you wish you involve yourself with at any moment.

    I do agree at the highest level choice is involved, but per stages of development, many “souls are not capable of integration. A kindergartner cannot fathom a 5th grade curriculum, much less a PHd.

    • P.S. I don’t think we are “pieces” of the I Am. We are the I Am itself. Fully. “Thou Art That”. However this could be looked upon as just semantics.

    • Hi Ken, thank you. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and opinions. What you have written leads to more thoughts. I reread the title of the site ‘ and wonder if what you are describing is the personality of a person, which grows and hopefully matures over a lifetime, and what I am thinking of is the Spirit of each, which is perfect, but chooses to experience the roles of ‘separation’ as either lessons, or entertainment, for Source. (If it is not so, why do the Michael angels use the term ‘play’ when they make serious requests from me?)

      I agree that at maturation that spirit reintegrates into the greater “I AM”, which is just another name for Source or God – but they do this at the end of every lifetime, when they return Home.

      The human spirit was created to learn and grow, which is why we have the gift of Separation, which is something that the angels do not have. We can not fulfill purpose of our creation if we do not play the game of separation. Personality, however, is just an assumed cover, like a mask, we choose each time we incarnate – it dissolves at the body’s death, the Spirit then reunites with Source, unless the person becomes a ghost. No soul is ‘not capable of integration’ at any time, because separation is only a game we play. We all remain a part of the greatest Self, like a raindrop in the ocean. And each time we reincarnate we draw from different aspects of the Self (I AM) to create new lessons and adventures, not exactly the same person we were before, although we might be close to it in personality, depending on what we choose to learn.

  29. Ama, Ken, et al – What a cool conversation, to me. Alot of people freak out a bit when discussions like this get started. And so much we align to. As I mentioned, I blocked myself so thoughly I have to rely on Mediums and Masters (usually Lord Stefano, twice to Lord Germain) willing to channel those mediums (most favorite medium is Rev Hoyt Robinette) plus 10’s of books I’ve read, but principally Dr. Michael Newton’s four books about the more than 8000 souls he has recorded their hypnotheraphy sessions.

    Everyone I talk to through mediums or channeling do not term dimensions but simply call it “Everlife” and Newton refers it to be “afterlife”. Only certain books and authors refer to dimensions. As related back to me there is no Hierarchy just evolvement for better understanding, acceptance and practicing of unconditional love and to eventually be more closely attuned to the Creator. Everything and Everyone is part of the Source/Creator but we maintain a certain level of individuality, like fingers on a hand – thus I AM that I AM or just I AM.

    As we learn and evolve we all have “jobs” if you will, when we return Home, even if we are still reincarnating. Primary for all even while learning is to be teaching. Plus some babysit newly sparked souls, some attend to souls returning from an incarnation, some help souls plan their next incarnation, some help souls who made some poor “free will” choices and need their black energy spots cleaned and healed, so more advanced learn how to create inanimate tectonics or even leaves on a tree.

    When my Mother was here and I would take her with me to a medium and the medium always asked, “why are you here?”, she would just smile and say, “to help my family”, of course. Come to find out she is about two levels of envolvement of my own guides and is Lord Monténe. But she says, “while you are still there, I am just Gladys or Mom”. I talk to my guides and immediate family and closest friend every night but only get answers when I visit a medium. My closest friend (who was a big-time fundlmentalist-evangilist here) said “your correct Sam about where we go” and is teaching a class slightly less evolved. He also said he is considering another incarnation.

    It is extremely hard for me because everything at Home is in the Now and time as we know it is completely different. As Richard Bach said in “Illusions” – coming here is like going to movie, we get locked in and so involved and the whole is to learn or have fun. You are correct Ken!!

    You are correct Ken – And regardless what you evolvement really is, when your young in an incarnation, you usually don’t exhibit your true counsciousness. I was a highschool dropout who joined the Navy. All I could think about was get educated and learn electronics (1960). Then start a family, make money. Finally in my 30’s listen to my Mom and the I AM and philosophise a bit. Finally in my 50’s acceptance of who we are in THIS universe and the vastness and the creator’s love. And now in my 70’s I’m told I’m getting close to coming Home but must publish my knowledge and thots about unconditional love and the Everafter.

    Ama, I agree, no dimensions, I use the analogies to communicate with non-believer techies to quantify and freak ’em out with something they can’t prove. The love to say, “prove it” and I say, “disprove it” – plus like I told my best friend, “When you transition, a guide will take you Home to rest, go to your soul group, then go to work” – this always causes havoc with an atheist.

    Most of us are constantly evolving (our real purpose), teaching others to evolve, with the goal of fully integrating as part of the “Oneness” and still have individuality. We have infinity and it is all NOW.

    (P.S. what i wouldn’t give for a spellchecker in here)

  30. One question, Ken. How can we be fully the “I AM” if we need to evolve?

    IMO, without separation (being pieces of the whole) you would not be ‘you’, and I would not be ‘me’ .. both of which are a creation of the mask called personality. Every level of the journey we choose to experience is a choice .. so we can be a baby soul one lifetime, and an ancient the next.

    • Ama,
      Two sides of a coin do not make two coins. One can engage in the illusion of separation, for in truth separation never really happens, and in the illusion play the game or drama of evolution. Thus this site is about the 5 stages of Soul evolution in the human soul journey called a “grand cycle”

      As an analogy. I became a professional storyteller at age 42. In reality I was always a storyteller, I just wasn’t in touch with it. But it was never “not me”.

      We go to a play. While there we are immersed in the story, to the point of strong emotion, even profound shifting in our lives. Yet the characters and situations were never “real”, the actors, writers, directors, etc created something but their true identities were always who they are and could never change because they played a part in the drama.

      Thus although we experience ourselves as “pieces” of God, it is like my hand is part of my body, not a piece of food on a plate. To me the more correct word is “extension” or “expression” of the whole. The full connection is always present, just allowed to forget for the purposes of the game.

      Therefore enlightenment to me is simply awakening to what is and has been always fully present and truthful, not gaining something that wasn’t there.

      In the beginning of the journey I did not “realize” that.

    • My understanding from these teachings, and those of others like Michael Newton is there is no jumping around like that. One cannot go from A-Z. The order is rather set. One is not a baby, then an adult the next day. Maturity has to be earned.

  31. Ken – I have been trying for almost 40 years to reach a theta state, cannot relax or focus sufficiently – the same with meditation and calming. I say and believe “I can”, but it doesn’t come to pass. No longer important – soon bi-directional Comms via telepathy will be there because I’ll be there. I’m quite happy with an occasional intution and Lord Stefano and Mom teaching me in my dreams.

    As I understand it we are not on any “track” to evolve or learn. We are not even obligated to incarnate, we can “just lay around heaven all day” if that’s our gig. The aura will remain a dull white and not evolve through the rainbow. But if that our choice we are wasting some much joy and love.

    If we chose to incarnate we can chose to just have fun or just exist as a pre-historic man, or a harrowing Viking.

    I personally want to evolve and become closer to the Oneness of the I AM. I desire to learn a lot of scientific processes and creation. Some of my negative emotions still exist and the best i have is I know this and can’t fully be involved in unconditional love until I elvolve some more. It is important to me to continue so I will be of value to others. But I do have eternity to achieve.

    • Have you asked these channels and mediums about this issue? What is their response? I’d be interested. Also Their advice
      1) Your capacity for this
      2) What practical steps will help you

      I think they should have strong insight into the issue. External dependency is not a condition our Guides are interested in..There can be some kind of balance.

      God as self imo opinion does not leave us alone without solutions. Just an observation. You used the term ‘theta state’. To me that is rather meaningless or vague. Its just simple. You feel connection or you don’t.

      Years ago I had an experienced reader tell me I was a reader. I told her she was crazy. I didn’t and perceived that I couldn’t do stuff like that.

      Now I’m a reader. Go figure.

      I have a friend who has great abilities in this. But she leans heavily on a channel. Her issue stems from confidence. It manifests as messages that don’t make sense.

      I told her its not the guides but her own disconnection. As I encouraged her to firmly ask the guides to give her messages in forms she could understand and process, things started to change. Her willingness started opening he channel. Its a very intertwined “relationship”. She was the one unconsciously doing the blocking.

    • According to Newton and the Michael teachings of this site, There is a “grand cycle” that souls go through. So we are on a “track” and it is quite specific. I have heard some souls don’t want to come here because its so tough, but the Soul is strong.

      Matt Kahn (look him up, his video talks are amazing) says growth is a function of time (duration) and intensity. You can grow or learn slowly with more duration (many lives) or more quickly (intensity). Most souls, he said, choose intensity. These as Newton pointed out are “accelerated lives”.

      Just a question. About “wanting to evolve”. Who is it that “wants” this. The point I am getting at is the conscious mind is not the generator or decider of this stuff. It comes from a part of self way beyond that.

      Or as a very advanced Buddhist Nun I saw once said “:I take no personal responsibility for anything”. If it was my karma, I would be Stalin”.

      Or as the Yogi’s say,”Who is the doer in all of this”.

      “Sitting quietly, doing nothing, spring comes, grass grows”

  32. Hello Ken, you wrote ‘no jumping around’ .. in my experience, in these times of change, there are now many souls incarnate on the planet who are not just ‘old’ but have gone past the reincarnation cycle completely, and incarnate as needed (by request), on all levels, to help others with their journeys. They are not bound by the rules of ‘one step after another’. They can create both chaos and calm, simply by existing. You might think of them as catalysts.

    • Ken, the answer you wrote that commenced “Two sides of a coin do not make two coins. One can engage in the illusion of separation, for in truth separation never really happens … “. I clicked the ‘like’ button, but there should be an ‘excellent’ one. 🙂 Thank you.

    • Well I would agree with that but its apples to oranges. I think in the “normal” cycle it doesn’t happen but in the circumstances you describe, then it could.

  33. Sam, I agree about the spellchecker, for me.

    After I die I am going on holidays. I think I wrote that already. I didn’t have one last time around, but a group of us have decided we are going swimming in shark invested waters, for two reasons .. one – we don’t have to worry about snorkels or drowning, and two – we do not have to worry about being bitten.

    As for relaxing enough to reach theta .. not a chance; however, I can slip in and out of trance at will, but I do not channel. It is unnecessary. I just ask questions and get answers, within my specific fields of expertise. I work with Archangel Michael and his crew, but not one of them has ever addresses me as ‘Beloved’. (However, the kitten, fast growing into a cat, has now launched herself onto my shoulder again, where she drapes herself, purring loudly, and interferes with all my writing and typing. Am I her beloved, or just her electric blanket? LOL)(She has now gone to sleep).

    As to us all sitting around eating lotus flowers, I can’t think of anything more boring. One of the reasons humans incarnate is because of the internal drive to create both chaos and peace. As I wrote earlier, we were created to create, and although we have free will and can ‘lotus eat’ as long as we want, there is no time in heaven – but there is on earth, and a part of us believes that we might miss out on some fun, strange or significant events here, if we don’t come back regularly to join the fun. But then, if we think of time as a circle, we can literally incarnate ‘when’ we want to, rather than in a linear fashion.

    And all of that can create a tremendous amount of confusion in the minds of newcomers to esoteric thinking, or arguments, which might explain why people tend to stay away from this sort of conversation, which is a pity .. just like they tend to avoid the religious folk who want to spout and pontificate, or simply have a chat about Love .. which is, after all, what all of this is about, in the end. The Creator created Self, the self created selves to learn about Self, the selves created humanity and told it to learn about it-self .. and so it does .. one raindrop at a time.

    Utterly fascinating.

  34. You’re very close. Consider, however- for moment, this idea.
    There are many kinds of people, at each “level of soul evolution”. Some souls reach a certain “level”, and although they are “in tune”, they for some reason or another, choose to continue to be part of the material cycle, and do so in fairly limited bodies.. TBH, I don’t know why it does this. Due to its rather large, yet very ordered flow, it can inhabit many separate bodies at a time, creating it’s own personal reincarnation cycle, that doesn’t get affected, or affect the evolution around it. It seems to just enjoy it.

    Souls are just e energy, tho.. so a soul can be a blade of grass- or an entire planet, given time, and the right conditions…
    Is there a point to it? Maybe. Perhaps it’s sheer random chaos, but enough chaos contains boundless possibilities.

    I will tell you this though. 100 cycles is a good roundabout figure for how long it takes to have reached a level of harmony in your resonance to be able to condense, and intensify.

  35. I agree with you that all these systems are reflections of something greater that is put in terms the human intellect can understand. However I would disagree tat there is not an organization to the process. If we look at the Universe and development of life on Earth, movement from simple to complex seems to be its nature.

    Whatever system is suggested, Hinduism for example or the newer models such as the MIchael teachings, this movement is reflected. In other channels I have been with that I respect, this process in the human of “maturation” is consistent.

    Therefore, there does seem to be an inherent organizational movement. Perhaps there is fluidity within the form perhaps fluidity in the larger process, but as the river flows to the sea, so the part moves to reintegrate with the whole.

    I don’t see souls jumping from human to blades of grass. However long evolution in the plant form may be part of the design. We think of human as a pinnacle. Now I am not so sure.

    Different, not superior.

  36. Humans are humans…grass is grass…everything has body mind and soul but each to his own kind…

  37. I like the way it’s expressed in Emmanuel’s Book:

    “As awareness expands, it connot contract.
    It can be distorted, but it connot contract.
    Once one has known a human consciousness
    there would be little use
    in being a blade of grass again,
    for the karmic structure of the human being
    is far more complex and aware.”

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