Those undergoing the fifth and final stage of reincarnation are known as old souls. In this stage of soul evolvement there is a search for balance and completion, and an urge to pass on the torch before the end of reincarnation.

Journey’s End

Having completed the fourth stage of reincarnation, the soul has come a long way.

  • In the first stage, as an “infant soul” it learned about physical existence, life and death, and the need for nurturing.
  • In the second stage, as a “baby soul” it learned about society, culture and community, the need for structure, belonging, and playing a role.
  • In the third stage, as a “young soul” it learned about free will and self-determination, taking charge of its own destiny, rising to the challenge.
  • In the fourth stage, as a “mature soul” it learned about co-existence and interrelatedness, taking responsibility for its relationships, honouring difference and otherness.

At last, the soul is ready for the final leg of the journey: the return to unity and the end of reincarnation.

This return to unity does not involve any loss of individuality, as some imagine. The end of reincarnation — “ascension” or “enlightenment” or what have you — does not mean fading out of existence, dissolving into nothingness.

Rather, the soul completes its adventure as a unique individual, like a distinctive star in the night sky, a completely realised Self.

So to begin this stage, the soul will tend to focus on true self-expression and self-actualization. In other words, seeking experiences and activitiies which provide ultimate personal fulfilment within life on the physical plane.

This could be found in, say, art, science, acting, wine-growing, gardening, flying old aeroplanes, or simply being a grandparent. The soul is not interested in success or fame so much as doing something it loves well, living up to its true potential, and finding inner satisfaction.

Then, towards the end of the stage, there is more of an emphasis on teaching rather than simply learning: passing on the lessons learnt, showing others the way.

Gangaji (American spiritual teacher)

For some, especially Old Priest souls, the teaching focus is explicitly spiritual. Many of the world’s great spiritual teachers are old souls.

That’s not to say that every self-proclaimed guru is an old soul. Far from it. There are spiritual teachers at all stages of reincarnation. But the advanced old soul has certain characteristics as a spiritual teacher that stand out from the rest: far-reaching wisdom, great compassion, and little or no attachment to material things.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t

The main lesson for old souls is to do with unity in diversity. The old soul already has a well-developed sense of personal identity (from the young soul phase) and interdependence (from the mature soul phase). Now the soul also feels drawn to reconnect with the greater order of things, the underlying cosmic unity.

This does not mean overthrowing the lessons of the previous stages in favour of some nice, fluffy notion of oneness. Rather, it means coming to terms with all of life’s dualities (self and other, love and hate, joy and pain, etc.) as integral to the whole.

Old soul perceptions

In this fifth and final cycle on the Earth plane, there is a more holistic perception of self, life and everything as part of a bigger picture. So while the mature soul comes to perceive others as its brothers and sisters, the old soul comes to perceive both self and others as integral parts of a greater whole, all unique yet all essential.

In other words, the old soul comes to perceive every thing, every being, every moment, as part of one great tapestry.

The issue now is how to relate to this united reality through one’s own being — how to be at peace with all of the conflicts, how to experience the harmony within all of the diversity.

This involves recognising the validity of each being’s chosen path in life within the broader scheme of things. We are all part of the One, and yet we are many, each pursuing a different path. And no path is wrong. Hence the old soul motto: “You do your thing and I’ll do mine.”

Richard Feynman

Richard Feynman (6th-level Old King)

Old soul lifestyles

Old souls become more relaxed, laid back and detached in life. Human existence is familiar and manageable, and there are not so many problems or issues to deal with. The main issues, in fact, are existential rather than material or psychological.

Doing their own thing, old souls end up pursuing nothing but their own path whilst allowing others to pursue theirs, just perfecting their own abilities, being themselves in life to the best that they can. Many do so through artistic, humanitarian or philosophical endeavours, though for many their greatest form of self-fulfillment can be something as “mundane” as gardening. Work, rest and play all become the same thing.

A potential difficulty for old souls is lapsing into apathy, no longer caring about life and the world. As the physical plane begins to lose its allure, the incarnate soul can show signs of being world-weary, even from birth.

In fact, depression is the one form of mental illness to which old souls are vulnerable. (Which is not to say that everyone with depression is an old soul, necessarily. It’s just that an old soul who is beginning to see the bigger picture might sometimes feel that ordinary life is a pointless ordeal.)

In the end, joy is found in simply being as opposed to doing.

Amma – the hugging humanitarian (Old Server)

Other old soul characteristics

How can you spot an old soul?

Old souls have a level of self-assurance that is unusual for souls in other stages (with the exception of King souls, who don’t really do self-doubt at any stage). They are generally relaxed and comfortable in their own skins. That’s not to say that they have no issues; many clearly do. But their issues do not dominate them in the way that is often the case with mature souls.

Old souls tend to emanate a calm, steady quality that has substance, depth or gravitas. In comparison, young souls can appear frantic and superficial while mature souls seem perpetually stressed and assailed by life. You can often hear it in the voice — young souls tend to talk loud and fast, mature souls have a sort of soft tone laced with uncertainty, while old souls tend to have a slow, deep voice – relaxed, assured and unhurried.

This inner calm and depth is also evident in the old soul’s eyes. Whereas young souls cannot make eye contact for long, and mature souls will do so occasionally, when they’re not too stressed or distracted, old souls tend to make direct eye contact with an unflinching gaze. (Note: This is not the same as the cold stare of a psychopath!) They are unafraid to look another in the eyes and see into their heart.

Compared to other souls, old souls are generally more relaxed and philosophical about life, at ease with themselves and others, and have fewer material attachments. They tend to be drawn to the quiet life away from the noise of the city. The old soul is more a citizen of the world than wedded to one place. Old Kings in particular will tend to spend their last lives as homeless, wandering teachers.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t

Some notable old souls

Old souls who become famous tend to do so by virtue of their mastery, insight and wisdom rather than ambition.

Many of the finest minds in history have been old souls: Marcus Aurelius (121-180), Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519), Carl Jung (1875-1961).

In the arts we have the composer J. S. Bach (1685-1750), the painter Paul Gauguin (1848-1903, now apparently reincarnated as artist Peter Teekamp), and the writers Walt Whitman (1819-1892) and William Blake (1757-1827).

In the acting profession, there are numerous old souls who are brilliant at playing characters who are, essentially, younger souls — mainly because there aren’t that many scripts featuring old soul characters! Consider, for example, Anthony Hopkins playing Hannibal Lecter or Michael Dorn playing Lt Worf. Morgan Freeman is well known for the gravitas he brings to every role.

     Michael Dorn

 

Clint Eastwood’s acting reveals a mix of Warrior soul combativeness with old soul detachment, but it is as a director that he has achieved mastery.

Finally, many of the world’s great spiritual teachers have been late-stage old souls passing on their wisdom: Gurdjieff (1866-1949), Jiddu Krishnamurti (1895-1986), Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950), Anandamayi Ma (1896-1962), Neem Karoli Baba (d. 1973), the Dalai Lama, Ammachi (Mātā Amritanandamayī Devi), and Thich Nhat Hanh.

The end of reincarnation

There are seven levels to every stage of soul evolution, including this one. So after completing the 7th level of the mature soul stage, the soul begins its next life as a 1st-level old soul. The soul then undergoes the whole sequence of development as an old soul, one life at a time, until finally it reaches 7th level. This is the final step, step 35, in the 35 steps of reincarnation.

Now, I occasionally meet people who are convinced that they must now be in their final incarnation simply because they are so “spiritual” and have no liking for the material world. This is not how it works.

The goal of evolution is not to escape from the wretched physical plane, despite what many teach. The end of reincarnation is not some sort of reward for good behaviour. Human existence is not a prison, or a wheel of torment, from which only the most worthy gain liberation.

We incarnate because we want to and we choose to. We keep doing it precisely because we want to come to terms with it. We know that in each life we will probably spend several decades not remembering who we are, not remembering our eternal Home, buying into the illusion of separation, experiencing fear. This is the very stuff which inspires us to become more conscious.

Completion occurs when it matters not whether you are incarnate or discarnate: you see through the illusion and you always feel at Home.

If you have issues with being physical, then you still have a way to go.

So the last lifetime is one in which you are very content to be in physical form, using it as an opportunity to teach and enlighten others.

Ramana Maharshi An example of someone in their last life is Ramana Maharshi, a 7th-level Old Scholar and a model of pure enlightenment. Towards the end of his life, some of his students begged him not to die, not to leave them. His answer was: “But where could I possibly go?” He knew that both he and everybody else are already Home, and always will be, having never really left it.

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Beyond old – the higher levels

On completion of the seventh level of the old soul stage, there is no longer any need or desire to reincarnate. The soul will unify its consciousness with soul mates who have also completed, and it may serve as an elder spirit guide to others still undergoing reincarnation. But there is no longer value to be had in incarnating as a human being.

There are some rare exceptions, however.

A number of old Priest souls such as the philosopher Socrates, the Prophet Mohammed and Mahatma Gandhi are said to have incarnated to become vehicles for a higher level of consciousness capable of inspiring a cultural revolution. The higher consciousness manifested through these individuals only in later life. From that point on, they are referred to in the Michael teachings as “transcendental souls”.

Rarer still, Jesus Christ and the Buddha are said to be examples of old King souls who returned to become the physical embodiment of divine love, pure consciousness and ultimate truth, the Tao itself in human form. In other words, avatars. Again, the transformation did not occur until some point in adulthood. But from then on, these individuals are said to be manifestations of the “infinite soul”.

Recommended reading

The Michael Handbook

A Channeled System For Self Understanding
JOSÉ STEVENS and SIMON WARWICK-SMITH
(Warwick Press, 1990)
Amazon link

Journey of Souls

Case Studies of Life Between Lives
MICHAEL NEWTON, Ph.D.
(Llewellyn, 1994)
Amazon link

Old Souls

The Sages and Mystics of Our World
ALETHEIA LUNA
(KINDLE only: Amazon, 2013)
Amazon link

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The Five Stages of Reincarnation

Stage 1
Stage 2
Stage 3
Stage 4
Stage 5
Infant Soul Baby Soul Young Soul Mature Soul Old Soul

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241 Responses to “Stage 5: The Old Soul”


  1. 1 babylonmagus 10 Sep 2014 at 3:44 am

    Think that I read somewhere, long ago, that Walt Whitman is now incarnate as equally sublime writer, Alice Walker.

    • 2 barry 10 Sep 2014 at 8:57 am

      Arvin! How am I supposed to get any work done when you go pointing out things like that.
      Now I’m off on a frenzy of research!
      :)
      BTW, must chat with you soon – will email.
      B

      • 3 babylonmagus 10 Sep 2014 at 5:15 pm

        A scholar protesting research – even me with my scholarly TC input see this as no end of heresy… you owe your scholarly entity mates, to say nothing of cadence mate, a serious mea culpa! lol…

        • 4 barry 12 Sep 2014 at 8:59 am

          :D :D :D

          • 5 babylonmagus 12 Sep 2014 at 10:38 am

            :p

            • 6 barry 13 Sep 2014 at 10:45 pm

              Hey my man, where did you read about the Alice Walker connection? I’ve been doing some research and it looks completely solid to me. Will do a post soon.

              But meanwhile, what do you think of this…?
              Walt’s boyfriend Peter Doyle –> Alice’s girlfriend Tracy Chapman.

              • 7 babylonmagus 13 Sep 2014 at 11:04 pm

                Well, I must admit to not being non-too-conversant with Walt Whitman… still have yet to finish leaves of grass… lol. They seem both highly simpatico and have that old soul hew to them (Walker/Chapman)… I either read it in a Michael book or prior to her passing, Sarah had shared the information with me – I am convinced that the latter is the correct source… it was around the time of Princess Diana’s passing and she shared Diana’s overleaves then and – we emailed a lot, Sarah and I – I was her most prized whore in a brothel she ran in Barbados three lives back and one of her favourite pirates was king soul and the former Saladin at whose court I had danced and was favoured by the homoeroticised – he was obsessed with Richard Coeur de Lion – Saladin… I had inquired of Prince Charles as I tend to have very intensely lucid dream encounters with said (he is also like moi-meme 7th level mature though entirely different pod) – at that time, Sarah then shared his and a whole host of other famous persons’ overleaves with me and I do recall – I was then resident in Montréal – the Walt Whitman/Alice Walker information having been shared then. Really good rapport with Sarah at the twilight of her ennobled sojourn… happy research and I do trust that my dreams both engage and inspire the core of your scholarly essence/intellect. Sweet dreams…

                • 8 barry 14 Sep 2014 at 12:54 am

                  Fantastic. Now go see my new blog post —> http://wp.me/p3IPja-544

                  • 9 barry 14 Sep 2014 at 1:05 am

                    Wait. What? Brothel? Prized whore? Prince Charles? Saladin? FFS! You and me got some talking to do!

                    PS: I also had my overleaves from Sarah just before she left.

                  • 10 babylonmagus 14 Sep 2014 at 8:50 pm

                    As it was then my Saturn return, I do believe that the central figure in this initiation dream was either a member of the Michael or the magnetic old king to whose realm we – Merlin and I are as task companions – belong…

                    http://dreampoetica.wordpress.com/2013/04/02/the-seminal-dream-of-this-lifetime/

  2. 11 Mateo 14 Sep 2014 at 7:22 am

    hi man, i believe im a really old soul, but im only 17 years old, life to me is so simple an easy, i just want to do what i want and just get on with it… i want to become an polymath within the fields of creativity and human way of expression, do you think there might be anyway at all of achieving a higher state than the old soul? i mean, im really young and really old, as i mature I get older in both ways, right?

    • 12 barry 14 Sep 2014 at 5:27 pm

      Hi mateo

      Great, just go for it, your creative/expressive life will unfold.

      But don’t go looking to achieve a higher state than an Old Soul. That’s like someone climbing Everest saying, “Is there something higher than Everest I can climb?” Once you (or any of us) graduate as a 7th level Old Soul, you’ll be done with this planet. All in good time, all in good time. You will become the fullest expression of your true self in the latter half of your life. Before then, you have to focus on being in this specific body/life.

      Given that you’re 17 in Earth years, I wouldn’t expect you to be fully acting your (soul) age for another 17 years or so. Even Jesus didn’t hit his stride until he was in his 30s.

      B

    • 13 NothingAzure 14 Oct 2014 at 4:08 pm

      Enlighten that’s all I can think off.

  3. 14 Mateo 14 Sep 2014 at 7:28 am

    and yes, i have read your post regarding the 20 year old, old souls… I have already started balancing my arrogance ego and ignorance, my life is very balanced (naturally) but i just believe, to me, that there will be another stage

    • 15 Ken Kaplan 01 Oct 2014 at 2:18 am

      As long as you think “you” are doing all this, you haven’t fully blossomed yet. As you mature, I think you will see the truth of awakening is different than your conceptions of it. Right now I see a lot of mind-ego activity in your perception but that is natural and I think will drop away. Then, as Barry intimated, you won’t care about “stages”. There will be only NOW. The rest will take care of itself as there is an endless inner flow.

    • 16 barry 15 Oct 2014 at 7:07 am

      There are indeed other stages of expansion, integration, and discovery beyond the cycles of reincarnation. But there is no great value in fixing your attention there instead of your present life while still in a body. So I would suggest you consider your motives for having this focus.
      B

  4. 17 Donna 12 Oct 2014 at 2:40 am

    Do you know why a soul would incarnate into a lifetime with a mental illness such as bipolar ,schizophrenic, etc?

    • 18 barry 15 Oct 2014 at 10:01 am

      Hi Donna

      A life journey that involves chronic ailment is often, but not always, one of learning through adversity, driven by the goal of Growth. Souls can deliberately choose a disabled body or mind, either to develop a specific capacity within themselves, or to counterbalance an over-developed aspect such as self-importance.

      It isn’t a “karmic punishment” by the way; it’s a considered choice.

      On the other hand, chronic mood disorders (like depression and anxiety) can be “hangovers” from undigested traumas in previous lives. Many of those who suffered sadistic abuse at the hands of the Nazis, for example, have come into this life with chronic depression.

      But there is always light at the end of the tunnel. Through a life of mental disability, incapacity or illness, and with appropriate external support, a soul will learn how to cope with the particular limitations of the condition.

      For example, a painful condition can foster inner strength; a condition that imposes dependence on others can foster humility; a condition that attracts social discrimination (such as AIDS in the 1990s) can foster the ability to speak up for oneself, or to unite with fellow sufferers.

      Interestingly, both bipolar disorder and schizophrenia have been found to correlate with creative perceptions and talents.

      The idea of a link between “madness” and “genius” goes back to ancient times. While the Greek philosophers suggested that creativity comes as a gift from the gods, we would now say it comes from higher consciousness, or specifically from the higher emotional and intellectual ‘centres’.

      Those who have psychotic hallucinations (schizophrenics) tend to have an innate ability to see the world differently (not just in a psychotic way). Both creative and schizophrenic thinking relate to what’s called “divergent thinking” or “thinking outside the box”. While this can be a great talent, it seems that in schizophrenics this ability can go places beyond their understanding and out of their control. What they “see” in their psychotic episodes can be extremely horrible for them and distressing for those around them.

      A milder version of schizophrenia is the schizotypal personality (characterised by very eccentric thoughts/actions plus a need for social isolation). These people have a more stable access to their creative thought process than full-blown schizophrenics.

      From a reincarnational perspective, a schizophrenic is typically a soul that has incarnated with (a) creative talents developed over previous lives and (b) one or more suppressed traumas associated with those same lives. The traumas get triggered whenever the individual’s mind is either stressed or moves into creative thinking. This tends to evoke associations that are mysterious (to the conscious personality) but at the same time deeply meaningful. The conscious individual is like a “captive audience” to their own shattered mind.

      Strong links have also been found between creativity and mood disorders, particularly bipolar manic-depression as well as unipolar depression and anxiety.

      One factor may simply be the harsh realities of trying to live a creative life. People are most creative when they are in a positive mood, and love the experience so much that they want more and more of it. But pursuing a career in the arts is stressful and often comes with rejection after rejection. This alone may bring on anxiety and depression.

      But creative talent doesn’t apply just to the arts, of course. One can be a highly creative leader, for example. And it is worth noting that Winston Churchill is believed to have had bipolar disorder, as well as the artist Vincent van Gogh and the writer Edgar Allan Poe.

      In bipolar disorder, the individual experiences unpredictable and extreme mood swings. From a spiritual growth perspective, this condition brings the soul’s emotional life into the foreground, inescapably so. The soul’s challenge is to experience, accept and learn how to handle these emotions, rather than suppress them.

      Barry


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